1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
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1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
I have just done a 5 speed conversion on my 1984 Patrol. I fitted a Cabstar g/box. What a mission... Had to move the g/box mounting xmember back about 30mm and the xfer case xmember back by about 200mm. I also had to make 3 new propshafts, well I didn't have to, I could just have modified the existing ones, but I felt it best to have new UJs and sliding yolk, seeing the trouble I went to, I may as well go all the way.
Instead of doing 104kph @ 4000rpm in top (4th) before, I now do 3000 rpm at 104 in top (5th).
Cost? R2500 for the box and R4600 for the mod, including the 3 props. Was it worth it? Well, for me it was, but I will have to do lots of KMs to make up for the costs. Then I am not even talking about fitting 33" tyres and 10" wide rims.
The Cabal box has shorter 1st & 2nd gears than the old box the Patrol had in, so even with the bigger tyres, it will be better offroad. 3rd & 4th are the same as the old box, 4th being a 1:1 on both boxes. With the bigger wheels, pulling power in 5th is not its strong point, with 120kph coming up at only 3000rpm, but on the level road and slight uphills its manages well enough in 5th
Malcolm
But, boy does it look good.... Grrrr
Instead of doing 104kph @ 4000rpm in top (4th) before, I now do 3000 rpm at 104 in top (5th).
Cost? R2500 for the box and R4600 for the mod, including the 3 props. Was it worth it? Well, for me it was, but I will have to do lots of KMs to make up for the costs. Then I am not even talking about fitting 33" tyres and 10" wide rims.
The Cabal box has shorter 1st & 2nd gears than the old box the Patrol had in, so even with the bigger tyres, it will be better offroad. 3rd & 4th are the same as the old box, 4th being a 1:1 on both boxes. With the bigger wheels, pulling power in 5th is not its strong point, with 120kph coming up at only 3000rpm, but on the level road and slight uphills its manages well enough in 5th
Malcolm
But, boy does it look good.... Grrrr
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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
This is a picture of my patrol with the 33s fitted.
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Ai maar nou raak daai PV darm maar mooi
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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
oom, I need to do the same. waar het jy die box gekry en post some pics please van die ding!
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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
Malcolm, ek is self in die proses om die 5 spoed omskakeling te doen. My kort propshaft op die 4 spoed bout vas op die oordrag ratkas, maar het los ingeskuif op die ratkas. Die 5 spoed ratkas wat ek het, het 'n "flange" wat vasbout. Is joune ook so en indien wel, bout jou nuwe kort propshaft aan beide ratkaste vas? Indien wel, het jy nie enige vivrasies nie. Plaas asseblief foto's indien jy het, asook afmetings van jou 3 propshafts?
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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
Sorry I have only lookeed at this post now again.
Ja Michiel,
daai flange is wat die probleme veroorsaak, jy moet nou daai kort prop met 2 uj;s en 'n slide yolk bou en dit maak hom baie langer as die ou gearbox se kort proshaft. Geen vibrasies...
Herman,
Ek het die gearbox by Koos Uys in Bloemfontein gekoop, maar enige scrapyard kan jou een verkoop. Ek het oorspronlik by Engines for Africa in Heriotdale gaan kyk, hulle het baie Cabal boxe daar. Maar daar is 'n ander mod wat jy moet doen. Dis gelukkig maklik. Die Cabal het 'n column shift, die Safari is 'n floor shift, so jy moet die boonste covers omruil sodat die box wat jy insit nou die floor shift is. Dan moet jy die "gate" wat op die floor shift cover is, af sny met 'n angle grinder (dis net 'n 8mm mild steel bar aan die binnekant van die gearlever cover) sodat jy 5e rat kan select. Die "gate" is net daar om teverhoed dat jy probeer on 5e te haak in die ou 4 spoed box. Jy moet die Safari se bellhousing oorplaas op die nuwe box, hy pas sonder mods.
Jy moet ook 'n nuwe gearbox mounting bracket maak aan die agter kant van die (langer met 100mm) nuwe ratkas, dan moet jy die cross member agtertoe skuif, hoe ver jy dit skuif sal af hang hoe kort jy daai prop tussen die box en xfer case kan maak. Hoe korter hoe beter, want as hy te lank is, dan vang die handbriek drom agter op die xfer case aan die pyp tussen die 2 chassis legs.
Daarna moet jy die prop na die voorste diff se prop laat langer maak en die agterste diff se prop korter. Die prop angles is nog OK, selfs al het ek die voertuig met 50mm gelig.
Ek het intussen die voertuig verkoop en 'n 1995 Patrol gekoop, 4.2 petrol met 3 speed auto met overdrive.
As jy verder hulp soek, bel my op 083 296-5720
Malcolm
Ja Michiel,
daai flange is wat die probleme veroorsaak, jy moet nou daai kort prop met 2 uj;s en 'n slide yolk bou en dit maak hom baie langer as die ou gearbox se kort proshaft. Geen vibrasies...
Herman,
Ek het die gearbox by Koos Uys in Bloemfontein gekoop, maar enige scrapyard kan jou een verkoop. Ek het oorspronlik by Engines for Africa in Heriotdale gaan kyk, hulle het baie Cabal boxe daar. Maar daar is 'n ander mod wat jy moet doen. Dis gelukkig maklik. Die Cabal het 'n column shift, die Safari is 'n floor shift, so jy moet die boonste covers omruil sodat die box wat jy insit nou die floor shift is. Dan moet jy die "gate" wat op die floor shift cover is, af sny met 'n angle grinder (dis net 'n 8mm mild steel bar aan die binnekant van die gearlever cover) sodat jy 5e rat kan select. Die "gate" is net daar om teverhoed dat jy probeer on 5e te haak in die ou 4 spoed box. Jy moet die Safari se bellhousing oorplaas op die nuwe box, hy pas sonder mods.
Jy moet ook 'n nuwe gearbox mounting bracket maak aan die agter kant van die (langer met 100mm) nuwe ratkas, dan moet jy die cross member agtertoe skuif, hoe ver jy dit skuif sal af hang hoe kort jy daai prop tussen die box en xfer case kan maak. Hoe korter hoe beter, want as hy te lank is, dan vang die handbriek drom agter op die xfer case aan die pyp tussen die 2 chassis legs.
Daarna moet jy die prop na die voorste diff se prop laat langer maak en die agterste diff se prop korter. Die prop angles is nog OK, selfs al het ek die voertuig met 50mm gelig.
Ek het intussen die voertuig verkoop en 'n 1995 Patrol gekoop, 4.2 petrol met 3 speed auto met overdrive.
As jy verder hulp soek, bel my op 083 296-5720
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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
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ek en Ben Hur het gistraand weer 'n onderonsie mmet die "dictator" gehad [my idle ... oepssssss LOBO se idle revs bly weghardloop na 1500 - 1800 toe]
Toe gaat toetsry ons vi ou Lobo oppi N4 - en toe trap ik hom plat voet innie hoek - en toe gaan daai naald 3cm VERBY die 160 merk ... en toe vat-vat die revs aan 6000.
TOE smaail ik van oor tot oor.
darm net so vir 3 km edelagbare
Toe gaat toetsry ons vi ou Lobo oppi N4 - en toe trap ik hom plat voet innie hoek - en toe gaan daai naald 3cm VERBY die 160 merk ... en toe vat-vat die revs aan 6000.
TOE smaail ik van oor tot oor.




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Re: 1984 Patrol - 5 speed box and 33" tyres
Oom Mac, ek sien al daai prentjie voor my afspeel...ha...ha...
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