Low-ish power
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Re: Low-ish power
Here's some pics of my setup
This is the Nissan Filter This is the Mann & Hummel filter supplied by GUD
Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the Renault Scenic filter, but it works !!
This is the Nissan Filter This is the Mann & Hummel filter supplied by GUD
Unfortunately I don't have a pic of the Renault Scenic filter, but it works !!
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Re: Low-ish power
Ran car with no filter and even took the defunct airflow sensor housing off. No difference.
Checked everything. All that is left is the intercooler.
OR and this is a growing suspicion. The guy who had the troll between me and Pieter duToit pulled the turbo and put in a smaller unit... I will check model numbers when I am home next week-end.
Checked everything. All that is left is the intercooler.
OR and this is a growing suspicion. The guy who had the troll between me and Pieter duToit pulled the turbo and put in a smaller unit... I will check model numbers when I am home next week-end.
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Re: Low-ish power
Steve,
Your Troll's egts are running way to high. I have also have the same 4.2 diesel but with a Safari Turbo and intercooler system. On the last Dyno, is was getting around 95kw and 320nm on the wheels with translates to a fun drive. There is no way I am able to get the EGT's above 490C, and water temp runs to a max of 102C on long climb towing trailer .
I took the Troll in last week to reduce fuelling which in turn will reduce the boost, as the power i had was not necessary . I is now 90Kw on the wheel with 302 Nm.
Suggestion is that you get your troll on a dyno and get real numbers. From here the guys will be able to check what is wrong. I cannot believe that it would be your pump. Could be that the turbo set up is not correct or incorrect unit fitted. 4.2 LT of replacement needs a turbo that can deliver.
Let us know as soon as you get to the bottom of it.
Your Troll's egts are running way to high. I have also have the same 4.2 diesel but with a Safari Turbo and intercooler system. On the last Dyno, is was getting around 95kw and 320nm on the wheels with translates to a fun drive. There is no way I am able to get the EGT's above 490C, and water temp runs to a max of 102C on long climb towing trailer .
I took the Troll in last week to reduce fuelling which in turn will reduce the boost, as the power i had was not necessary . I is now 90Kw on the wheel with 302 Nm.
Suggestion is that you get your troll on a dyno and get real numbers. From here the guys will be able to check what is wrong. I cannot believe that it would be your pump. Could be that the turbo set up is not correct or incorrect unit fitted. 4.2 LT of replacement needs a turbo that can deliver.
Let us know as soon as you get to the bottom of it.
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Re: Low-ish power
Biggles -- check the exhaust. It may be blocked some .. silencer box se goeters wat platval .. dan is hy SWAAR op sous en sonder krag]
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Re: Low-ish power
Chapter 11
It went to a diesel injection and tuning specialist. Who the next day told me to come and pick it up... and they had changed the glow plugs.
And pointed at the turbo. So this is a big round about. The turbo was refurbished... the guy just scratched his head when I told him that. He had checked the injectors and they are good. He checked the pump timing and it was good (after I asked him and he did not charge me for that... so not sure if he did or just covering his arse) and he did a compression test, that was all over the place. not out of spec but uneven.
They could not work on the turbo but referred me to another diesel tuning place... anyway its going in there today. See what they point too.
It went to a diesel injection and tuning specialist. Who the next day told me to come and pick it up... and they had changed the glow plugs.

They could not work on the turbo but referred me to another diesel tuning place... anyway its going in there today. See what they point too.
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Re: Low-ish power
So the guy replaces your glow plugs (hope you got the Midas ones as they are a third of the price of what Nissan would charge you) but the problem remains?biggles wrote:Chapter 11
It went to a diesel injection and tuning specialist. Who the next day told me to come and pick it up... and they had changed the glow plugs.And pointed at the turbo. So this is a big round about. The turbo was refurbished... the guy just scratched his head when I told him that.
Surely he must be able to argue that the old ones are done? Else what was the point?
Why does he tell you to come and pick it up. Has he given up on the cause?
If it is not the turbo, it could still be the pump timing, given that you are not sure if this was checked by him?
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Re: Low-ish power
Precisely. Anyway I was not going to use them again. I have tiold teh guy it is going to that the pump timing has not been checked.Alex Roux wrote:So the guy replaces your glow plugs (hope you got the Midas ones as they are a third of the price of what Nissan would charge you) but the problem remains?biggles wrote:Chapter 11
It went to a diesel injection and tuning specialist. Who the next day told me to come and pick it up... and they had changed the glow plugs.And pointed at the turbo. So this is a big round about. The turbo was refurbished... the guy just scratched his head when I told him that.
Surely he must be able to argue that the old ones are done? Else what was the point?
Why does he tell you to come and pick it up. Has he given up on the cause?
If it is not the turbo, it could still be the pump timing, given that you are not sure if this was checked by him?
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Re: Low-ish power
It sound like the turbo was replaced with a too small unit.biggles wrote:Ran car with no filter and even took the defunct airflow sensor housing off. No difference.
Checked everything. All that is left is the intercooler.
OR and this is a growing suspicion. The guy who had the troll between me and Pieter duToit pulled the turbo and put in a smaller unit... I will check model numbers when I am home next week-end.
But to make sure Measure the boost just after the turbo, before the IC, I have seen IC parcially blocked and easily rob 0.5 bar boost.
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Re: Low-ish power
I am thinking of driving it down to Cape Town and leaving it with Frans.Stefan wrote:Give Frans (Tour de Frans) a call - he'll sort your Patrol out
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