Need help manne!!

[Langman]

I am seriously contemplating trading in my 2003 3.0 Manual for a later model but no it starts getting complicated...Ek wik en weeg so tussen petrol en diesel Ek moet met n' budget koop want ek het vir my vrou 3 maande terug n' nuwe chorra gekoop so ek kyk hier om en by R200-R250K (kan seker nog so bietjie oor...) vir my speelding. Probleem is dat ek n' regtig van my ou diesel begin hou het maar dit lyk my nie daar is 3.0 diesels in daai prysklas nie. Meeste wat ek sien is 4.8GRX's en jy kan hulle optel van sowat R200 to R240K maar dan het die engines tussen 212000 en 230000 km's op. Nou ek is seker dat die km's my nie te veel hoef te pla nie want die goed lyk soos kannie doods maar die brandstof verbruik sit my so bietjie af. Die petrol aan die ander kant het natuurlik sy voordele in die krag departement maar soos ek se die diesel het aan my gegroei en was tog nie so lui nie. Wat doen ek hier???? Koop ek die petrol net omdat daar baie van hulle is of hou ek aan soek vir daai "golden nugget" 3.0 dieselttjie wat ek heel waarskynlik nie binnekort gaan kry nie....

As iemand weet waar so 3.0 D staan laat my weet my, as iemand my wil oortuig om die petrol te koop probeer maar gerus. Ek soek ook raad oor die potentiale 4.8's wat daar buite is met die km's soos bo, is dit die moeite werd of is dit n' risiko?

[Peter Connan]

Langman if I may ask why do you want to change?

I don't know whether you drive your Patrol daily, or only play with it, but let me share a sum with you:
I am currently planning a trip to Bots for early next year. The basic trip is JHB, Martin's Drift, Kubu, Maun, Moremi, Savuti, Linyanti, Kasane, Palapye and back to JHB. Total trip distance is 3125km (this does not include game drives, but they are normally inconsequential). Total trip cost is estimated at R21 295.07 for my family of four in my 4.2 Patrol (which is heavier on fuel than my friend Tinus's 4.8). My estimated trip cost in a 3l Patrol would have been R19 133.68, so a saving of only R2 161.39

This does not include the maintenance or depreciation on the vehicle, but I beleive the long-term maintenance on the Diesel is more than on the Petrol.

I think that if you change, you will lose on the deal unless you are very lucky, but if it was me and I had to change, I would be going for a 4.8.

[Langman]

Thanks Peter appreciated and you are one of many to prompt me into the direction of the 4.8 but what do you think on the mileage issue on the models out there? My 3.0 D has 215K km's on it so I would not do an injustice to myself by getting something with more or less same mileage, especially considering it is a petrol motor. Do you think that R200-R250 K for a 2005 model with this mileage is ok price?

[beast]

Langman, ek sou as ek advies kon gee ontsla raak van die diesel en n petrol koop. Maar nou ja ek is nie een wat kan praat nie want ek hou nie van diesel nie. Ek het my 4.8 met 191 000 op die klok gekoop vir R190 000 en ek moet se as ek moet kies tussen my Navara en die Patrol dan verkoop ek eerder die Navara met 90 000 op klok. Ek het die 4.8 se uitlaat sisteem verander en die lug toevoer laat stel en hy is nie so swaar nie. Hy het lekker krag. Die 4.8 is ook goed toegerus en sondak ens is great. Ons het hom gery in die onlanse AAWDC Family day en hy is n wenner. Weereens sal ek hom gebruik voordat ek die Navara met al sy modifikasies gebruik. Ja met so om en by 200 ooo vind n ou klein goedtjies wat jy na moet kyk, maar dit is lekker. Gaan nou rocksliders opsit en groter wiele sodat hy mean lyk en wl begin volgende jaar Namib gaan toer. Raak ontslae van die diesel, hulle gee tog net probleme. N pel van my werk vir SASOL en hul mag nie diesels ry as firma motors nie want die som is gemaak dat oor 100 000 is die diesel duurder om te hardloop. Dit was vir my nogal nuus. Groete

[Peter Connan]

Langman because this is more than double the kind of money I have ever been able to afford to spend on a car, I don't really keep tabs on the prices of 4.8s.

However my feeling (mostly based on my reading on this forum) is that a 4.8 motor should do about double the mileage of a 3l diesel before it requires expensive repair. Most of the cars I have owned have had in excess of 250k km on when I bought them, and although I have often had to do fairly comprehensive work on them, they have always worked out cheaper to own than a new car with similar specs.

Having said that though, one has to be careful to ensure that the car has not been abused, has not been in a significant accident and that it has been thoroughly maintained (not necesarily by dealers). Also know that on older cars, the electronics (like radios, windows air con switches etc.) do tend to start niggling, so test them all carefully. This is particularly true if the vehicle has been used extensively on corrugated roads.

[ricster]

well.... on a different note....you could sell your 3.0 D and take on a 4.2 D with aftermarket turbo.... with less Km and reasonable fuel consumption.... and only 3 years older (2000)......
http://www.automart.co.za/cars/for-sale ... -id-323989

[Kagiso II]

Langman - As oompi ook eiers mag lê: HOU jou 3.0 - spaar daai bedrag wat jy nou meer moet opdok vir di e"upgrade" [hetsy dit petrol of diesel is] - sit dit pertinent en spesifiek eenkant - en ry daai 3.0 met omsigtigheid.
Ek dink jye het reeds die EGT- madman metertjie in? gooi elke 2e tenk sy 100ml tweeslag olie in - en jy gaan nog tot 500 000 voor hy anner engine nodig het [en DAN gaan trek jy daai wat jy nou eenkant sit - maak alles nuut aan die Trol, en beginne weer van nuuts af. - WANT - jy weet wat jy het - jy weet nooit wat jy gaan kry nie [50/50 vir beter/selfde of slegter]

Een wen gedagte met die diesel - op 'n gegewe trip is jou reikafstand baie verder as die petrol - met dieslfde hoeveelheid brandstof [so, minner djerri-kanne WWW ] [en ek HAAT los jerrykanne]

As ek nie self knyp had nie - het ek Agarob gehou tot forewwer [maar soos dit is - ek MOET hom nou v'koop, anders moet ek al my uitreike staak .. en daai is nie 'n opsie nie]