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Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 01 May 2017 16:40
by Tinus lotz
Pm me if you need his phone no :thumbup:

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 01 May 2017 21:15
by SJC
biggles wrote: Lockrite seems to be a more gentle system but looks like they may not have a patrol version?
Lokka is the australian copy of lockrite.
You get lokka and lockrite autolockers for the patrol front diff...

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 10:35
by biggles
I am awaiting some prices but first comms with suppliers says that there is no E-Locker for Nissan front diff. Detroit is more than double the Lockrite in cost.

Lead time 2-3 weeks.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 11:43
by Marino4x4
Good day

There is an ELocker for the front on the Nissan Patrol. The Terrain Tamer part number is: A9684-10TT. This is for the ELocker, bearing kit and all the switches and wiring. The cost of these kit are R24 250.

The part number for the rear locker is A9635-10TT. This is for the ELocker, bearing kit and switches and wiring as well. The cost is also R24 250 for a kit.

These prices does not include installation. You can arrange with your local 4x4 shop for installation. I did discuss this with Graham and he can assist. These lockers fits on all models, GQ and GU.

Thanks

Marinus

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 15:04
by SJC
biggles wrote:I am awaiting some prices but first comms with suppliers says that there is no E-Locker for Nissan front diff. Detroit is more than double the Lockrite in cost.

Lead time 2-3 weeks.
Did you speak to Ronald at 4x4traction?

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 15:22
by Tinus lotz
To me a e locker is the way forward....normal driving when not locked i want to be in control

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 15:52
by hugejp
biggles wrote:I am awaiting some prices but first comms with suppliers says that there is no E-Locker for Nissan front diff. Detroit is more than double the Lockrite in cost.

Lead time 2-3 weeks.
Here we go...

https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/4x4-perf ... er?make=41

There is a member here with on installed, in CPT if memory serves...

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 17:23
by biggles
So there is an e-locker for the front. i stand corrected. I have contacted Ronald and Mike (Mike mentioned no e-lockers for front). I told them I am not interested in the e-locker.
25K e-lock vs. 6.5 for a lockrite.

Auto locker for me is definitely the way to go for front of our patrols. You do not have any on road issues as in 2H you are not using your diff. Offroad I am offroading and having the front locked until it don't need it, just feels better than having it open until I need it locked. When you want to go around a corner it unlocks. All that without having to push a button.

Now offoad senario: Steep climb with a turn at the top.
E-locker) lock it for the climb and then try and disengage it on the fly before the sharp turn. With the transmission under stress it may not diengage or I forget to unlock it or I don't see the turn until it is too late. End result turning radius of a small oil tanker.
Autolocker) Climb up hill marveling at how much difference a front locker makes with both hands on the steering wheel, turn around corner and hear clicks as diff unlocks to allow me to turn as though I have no locker.

It is enough having to turn the rear locker on and off... without having to worry about one upfront too.

All the drawbacks of autolockers are onroad issues with either rear installation or front installation in permanent 4x4 vehicles.

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 18:37
by SJC
biggles wrote:So there is an e-locker for the front. i stand corrected. I have contacted Ronald and Mike (Mike mentioned no e-lockers for front). I told them I am not interested in the e-locker.
25K e-lock vs. 6.5 for a lockrite.

Auto locker for me is definitely the way to go for front of our patrols. You do not have any on road issues as in 2H you are not using your diff. Offroad I am offroading and having the front locked until it don't need it, just feels better than having it open until I need it locked. When you want to go around a corner it unlocks. All that without having to push a button.

Now offoad senario: Steep climb with a turn at the top.
E-locker) lock it for the climb and then try and disengage it on the fly before the sharp turn. With the transmission under stress it may not diengage or I forget to unlock it or I don't see the turn until it is too late. End result turning radius of a small oil tanker.
Autolocker) Climb up hill marveling at how much difference a front locker makes with both hands on the steering wheel, turn around corner and hear clicks as diff unlocks to allow me to turn as though I have no locker.

It is enough having to turn the rear locker on and off... without having to worry about one upfront too.

All the drawbacks of autolockers are onroad issues with either rear installation or front installation in permanent 4x4 vehicles.
Agree 100%

Re: Front Axle Lockers

Posted: 02 May 2017 18:40
by Peter Connan
Note that I have NOT driven a car equiped with an auto-locker yet.

However: most of the turning is done by the outer wheel. This is why an autolocker-equiped vehicle does not corner as tightly as one with an open front diff.

How much of an effect this has, I am not sure. Personally, I much prefer to have control, but then, I am not sure if that control is worth 30% of the price of my car...