Patrol back to life

[tour de frans]

Nog n iets binne my kar.Die dash is taamlik std behalwe vir die skakelaars.



Ek het n kluis ingebou bo die cubbyhole,dit werk baie lekker en sit ook gemaklik.My kar het nie n airbag daardie kant nie,maar ek dink n mens kan dit regkry met n airbag model,want die airbag is plat en sit nog hoer.


Die twee meters is Boost en EGT,belangrike items daai.



Die kleur verander saam met die ligte se aanskakel,maak dit donkerder in die aand.Pla nie op die oog nie.



Groete
Frans

[duckitt]

Dit is verseker n bakgat gedagte

[JG Shields]

Frans, jy kan gerus vir Danny kontak oor die scoop. Hy neem my ZD30 enjinkap oor omdat sy enjinkap gebuig is. Die scoop makeer egter niks.

JG

[tour de frans]

Hallo JG
Dankie ek wou dit doen,ek het vir Pieter gese ek gaan jou kontak oor jou scoop na ek jou hael skade gesien het(jammer daaroor).Ek en Pieter het eers op sy Patrol seker gemaak van die groote,maar die scoop is te smal.Ek kyk baie rond vir ander scoops op bakkies ens.Lyk ek gaan een moet bou of verander om te kan werk.My cooler se core is net oor n half meter wyd.
Dankie inelkgeval
Groete
Frans

[JG Shields]

Frans, in daai geval kan jy ook met ChristoSlang gesels. Sy 4.2Td het 'n "aftermarket" intercooler op wat 'n heelwat wyer scoop het as die zd30.

[tour de frans]

Dankie JG ek waardeer.
Hi Christoslang,watter scoop gebruik jy?
Groete
Frans

[Ross]

This is a great thread Frans....you have great courage to take on a project like that, but Man your van looks awesome now!! You have given me some good ideas for further mods on mine! I look forward to seeing your van "in the flesh" some time soon!! I`m also very keen to chat to you about turbo setups and tuning on the 4.2TD, I`m sure my setup can be optimized compared to the current setup....looks like you did an awesome job on yours!!!

Congrats on an awesome rig!

Cheers,

Ross

[tour de frans]

Dankie Ross,ek sien uit om jou ook te ontmoet.
Ek sal graag met jou praat oor turbo setup en brandstof verbruik....Ek krap geduurig aan my kar,soek altyd meer en beter,dit hou nie op nie.Ek is besig om die intercooler na bo te skuif,of altans ek gaan dit doen sodra ek n scoop kry.My turbo verander ek ook gereeld,nie vir breke nie maar vir die regte boost op die regte tyd.Dit klink snaaks maar ek wil he ,hoe die turbo moet boost en dit werk nie altyd so nie.Ek verander die "impellers" om die boost te maak werk waar ek wil.Ek het darm nog nie agteruit geboer nie,want ek het dieselfde krag met die helfte minder boost.Ek moet ook net se ,die kar het boost verloor met die intercooler.Die pype loop n lang pad van die turbo na die cooler terug enjin toe.
Ek het ook al die 3de exhaust sisteem op,Die krag en klank moet saam loop,sonder om te raas.
Ek hoop vir die kar om soos n "normal aspirated"kar te ry na die cooler se skyf en turbo veranderinge.Wat ek daarmee bedoel is ,daar moet geen turbolag wees nie.Ek weet daar sal altyd wees maar hou dit so laag met die toere as moontlik.
Baie manne se as hy die petrol trap dan gaan sy kar goed,ek wil die petrol trap dan is hy al klaar daar.
Anyway.....
Groete
Frans

[Ross]

Hi Frans,

Thanks! If you think your plumbing is long, you should see my set-up....there is a really LONG way between the turbo and the intake (definately not optimal!), and I think my intercooler is also too small. I hear what you`re saying about trying to reduce turbo lag, but woun`t you risk loosing intercooler efficiency if you change to a top mount due to the increased heat soak from the engine, and also reduced air-flow over the cooler? Will be an interesting experiment in any case. What boost do you run on your setup??

Cheers,

Ross

[tour de frans]

Hi Ross
You are right with the intercooler on top soaking the heat off the enjine.That was the main reason why I fitted the cooler in the front.At first I ran my car without a cooler,turbo only.The boost were 1.5 bar with the first turbo,I was happy with the car's performance but I changed the turbo to make it spool quiker.The second turbo just did that,but it only boosted 1.1 bar.It was perfect I did not look for the 1.5 bar but still tried to get the turbo on song early.Witch I fitted a third one.This turbo peaked at 1.1 again and came on song at lower rpm.It was what I wanted.Then I fitted the cooler .
The cooler stole 0.6 bar boost.That is to much.I know the snorkel with the filter steel only 0.1bar boost.That is ok,afterall that is a must.The exhaust rob the boost,or I should say the silencer by 0.1 bar allso.That is fine because the car is to loud without it.The 1.1 bar test without the cooler where with the snorkel and silencer.With the cooler 0.6 were missing.

I am off the mark,but that is why I want to move the cooler ontop.The only thing that satisfy my mind or madniss,I ran the car for long without a cooler.Witch won't make a differance driving slow with a cooler on top.The car was strong,Or shoud I say the performance was good without the cooler,the same with a cooler red hot at slow speed.
I could fit a fan for the slow driving but want to test that first.
So with the cooler on top with shorter pipes the boost should be back at 1.1 or 1.0 bar and cooling the air while driving,and act like a straight pipe on low vehicle speed.
All the tests were done on a dyno.The car make 130kw and 400 nm with the lower boost,but the cooler cool the air and there for the indencity are better.But the front mount cooler gave the car lag.
The first turbo with 1.5 bar made the same power without the cooler,so I am hopeing for more power with the change I am planing now.
All I know,the exhaust systems and turbo's and moving coolers are expensive,and this will be the last move.
Maybe I must do what Alanvs are about to do,V8 the thing.
That sounds nice,but the diesel are a challange for me.I had a V8 hilux, self built,awsome go big or go home type of thing,but it was stupid with fuel consumption.NO OFFENCE ALLAN.to much fuel for cross country.
Rgds
Frans