Patrol Pickup - Suspension lift options.

[SJC]

Is enige ander fabriekate is die moeite werd om te oorweeg? EFS, Iron Man, TJM, RAW, etc?

[SJC]

Ek was afgeraai om RAW te oorweeg. Maar hulle het 'n goeie review gekry hier: http://www.raw4x4.com.au/SiteFiles/raw4 ... ro_WEB.pdf

En is aansienlik goedkoper as van die ander kwotasies wat ek al ontvang het.

RAW is so R16-17k
EFS Elite R19.5k
Ironman R21k
OME - R27k

Bladvere is aansienlik duurder as coils...

[Michael]

Fanus,

Ek het al daai review gelees en hy is baie interesant gewees.
Ek moet se ek het nie eers geweet dat ons RAW hierso kry nie en van die review af lyk dit nie na slegte skokbreekers nie.

Die een ding wat die toets nie kon vas stel nie is hoe lank die skokbreekers gaan hou?? Ek het al van n paar gevalle gehoor waar n name brand skokbreeker in minder as n jaar foos was.

Ek het OME in my Patrol en die date stamp op hulle is September 2009, ek weet nou ongelukkig nie hoe hulle nuut voel nie, maar ek kan jou waarborg hulle is nog baie goed. My padhou vermoei is uitsteekend en selfs al sit ek hulle deur die swakste grondpad werk hulle vantasties.

Ek het selfs nou in Richards baai deur RBM se duine gaan ry en daar was een lang duin met erge axle twisters wat jy op hoe spoed moet uit ry....... nie een keer n skokbreeker voel uit bottom nie.

Ek is aan die ander kant ook maar n man wat wil sente om drai, en ek sal verseker nie 27k betaal vir daai OME setup nie.
Ek glo nie die RAW is n slegte produk nie, maar praat sonder enige ondervinding oor die produk

[Peter Connan]

Fanus, het jy na Bilstein ook gekyk? Hulle is nie noodwendig goedkoper nie, maar mens kan hulle diens, so jy koop een keer klaar.

[SJC]

Ek sal ook kyk na Bilstein.

[Peter Connan]

Praat met Mikem.

[David M]

Fanus. On the LDV with it having leaf springs why not research parabolic leaf springs with extended shackles and if Camil has a coilover that is the right length and with the right travel you would have an incredible setup. On the Hardbody's there is nothing to touch that setup. Allowing for inflation the setup should cost less than R 8 k for the back.

Oom Mac can elaborate more.

[Russ Kellermann]

Problem is trying to load an eland on the patrol .... parabolic's will not cope, at all. Even running Airbags under them, they will eventually fail, or worse, the chassis will fatigue at the airbag mount point and eventually fail, due to the bags taking so much of the day to day loads. Axle wrap under load can also be a massive issue with parabolics. Personally i think its counter intuitive to fit these to a vehicle like the patrol, a no nonsense work truck. Parabolics work beautifully on certain vehicle under certain applications, but i've seen what Fanus does with his truck and my opinion is that this would be a disadvantage.

Camil coilover rears will help if you run them with your standard leaf packs, but then you cant run airbags as their is no space for both camil AND airbags. In my opinion, i would run standard rears then with airbags rather. But remember that the bags will stiffen the rear alot. Rebound control is also very limited so things feels a little brittle and bouncy .

in my honest opinion the best result all round, is to fit a full 2" suspension like EFS, OME, Tough dog etc etc etc. yes, it is more expensive at the time, but the other short cuts just dont give you what you want and in the end you'll eventually pay twice.

I would fit a medium load rear leaf pack (not the Heavy duty pack like i did).

[SJC]

I see another option to lift vehicle with leaf springs, is to install a "lift block" between the axle and the leaf pack.
Anyone know this method?

[Peter Connan]

Fanus, that only works in a car where the leaf springs run over the axle. In a Patrol, the springs run under the axle.

If you want a lot of lift, the easiest way is to do a spring-over conversion. In other words, to shift the springs from under the axle to over the axle.

But this will give you a lot more lift than you are currently talking about (the thickness of the axle tube plus the thickness of the leaf pack, so probably in the region of 200mm).

Lift blocks are also probably the worst possible way to lift a vehicle.