Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Engines and Engine Systems
AndriesS
Patrolman
Patrolman
Posts: 611
Joined: 01 Feb 2010 07:42
Full Name: Andries
Nickname: None
Home Town: Pretoorsdorp
Current 4x4: 4.8 GL with hairdryer.
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 38 times

Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by AndriesS »

Lately I’ve noticed the following, It’s on a 4.8 GL ( manual gearbox) with 225k on the clock
When accelerating at full throttle in low gears (1, 2nd ,3rd) I’ve noticed it’s as if the revs does a step increase on the revs (looking at rev counter) it’s almost as if there is a surging but you don’t really feel it , however at part throttle it feels like a surging, it’s not really a jerk sensation nor a hesitation / flat spot just a surging while the speed increases.

Except for the obvious – i.e. it’s either fuel or spark any more precise ideas ?
How many km’s does the 4.8s fuel injectors last?
User avatar
SCUBA Patrol
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 414
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 11:15
Full Name: Phillip Jacobs
Nickname: Phillip
Home Town: Cape Town (Stellenbosch)
Current 4x4: Patrol 2006 3l diesel(die eerste Voetspore een)
Home Language: Afrikaans
Location: Cape Town, Stellenbosch (Paradyskloof)
Has thanked: 31 times
Been thanked: 32 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by SCUBA Patrol »

Does your patrol still have the CAT converter in? It might be blocked or partially blocked!
Phillip
2006 3l with MADMAN
User avatar
Tinus lotz
Moderator
Posts: 7590
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 13:07
Full Name: Tinus lotz
Nickname: Tinus lotz
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Nissan patrol 4.8 GRX 2005

Toyota 2.7 legend 35 LWB 4X4
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 802 times
Been thanked: 562 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Tinus lotz »

Ek stem vir daai exhaust ....miskien moet jy gou by steves in boxburg draai......om te meet is om te weet... :salute:
User avatar
Tinus lotz
Moderator
Posts: 7590
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 13:07
Full Name: Tinus lotz
Nickname: Tinus lotz
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Nissan patrol 4.8 GRX 2005

Toyota 2.7 legend 35 LWB 4X4
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 802 times
Been thanked: 562 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Tinus lotz »

Graham het n pressure gauge wat hy op die kar sit om die feul pressure te check terwyl jy ry ....hoe lyk jou pomp??
Wilkie
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1402
Joined: 24 Feb 2014 15:33
Full Name: Errol Wilken
Nickname: Wilkie
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: 1999 4.5 GRX Nissan Patrol
2004 BMW 3.0D X5
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 92 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Wilkie »

Check daai in-line fuel filter onder op die chassis,min mense ruil daai filter op n gereelde basis :mytwocents:
AndriesS
Patrolman
Patrolman
Posts: 611
Joined: 01 Feb 2010 07:42
Full Name: Andries
Nickname: None
Home Town: Pretoorsdorp
Current 4x4: 4.8 GL with hairdryer.
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 28 times
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by AndriesS »

My patrol does not have a cat, Anyone experienced a original exhaust getting blocked?

Something I forgot to mention the Patrol does seem to smell very rich at idle (even when its warmed up), I've recently replaced the fuel filter but will try again.

Replaced the air filter recently and the only only servicble items are the plugs, I've done them about 80k ago and repalced them back then with platinum ones and they are suppose to last at least a 100k.

My suspects
injectors starting to go
fuel pressure
MAF sensor - what is the tell tale sign of a MAF sensor starting to go?

Thanks
User avatar
Tinus lotz
Moderator
Posts: 7590
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 13:07
Full Name: Tinus lotz
Nickname: Tinus lotz
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Nissan patrol 4.8 GRX 2005

Toyota 2.7 legend 35 LWB 4X4
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 802 times
Been thanked: 562 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Tinus lotz »

Ruil daai plugs nissan verkoop nie eers meer daai the 100k plugs nie daai goed fail :thumbup:
Wilkie
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1402
Joined: 24 Feb 2014 15:33
Full Name: Errol Wilken
Nickname: Wilkie
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: 1999 4.5 GRX Nissan Patrol
2004 BMW 3.0D X5
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 69 times
Been thanked: 92 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Wilkie »

Tinus lotz wrote:Ruil daai plugs nissan verkoop nie eers meer daai the 100k plugs nie daai goed fail :thumbup:
Soos Tinus se ,daai vonk proppe vonk lankal nie meer soos hulle moet nie :thumbdown:
Brett Bignoux
Full Member
Full Member
Posts: 40
Joined: 04 Aug 2011 19:32
Full Name: Brett Bignoux
Nickname: Brett Bignoux
Home Town: Heatonville
Current 4x4: Datsun Safari Pick Up 1982 , Nissan Ruff , Yamaha Wolverine . Datsun Safari Wagon 1982
Home Language: English
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 9 times

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by Brett Bignoux »

GOOD DAY Andries , your surging problem may be from a dirty MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR . I have the same problem with a Nissan 2.4 hi rider . I disconected all the loom plugs on the motor and sprayed them with Q20 . I then sprayed the air flow sensor venturi with carb cleaner . the surging has mostly dissapeared , but it seems I may have to give it another spray with carb cleaner down the venturi to clean it completly . I hope this helps you and others with the same problem . Now fix it and go enjoy the 4x4ing ! CHEERS FOR NOW !
Can we get rid of STUPID DRIVERS before they kill us ?
nick vc
Full Member
Full Member
Posts: 29
Joined: 08 Apr 2014 12:20
Full Name: Nichalas van coppenhagen
Nickname: nick vc
Home Town: Port Beaufort
Current 4x4: 2001 patrol 3.0 td grx
Home Language: english

Re: Jerking / Hesitation / Surging

Post by nick vc »

Hi . I can't believe its been 10 months since last on this forum travelling from the cape up to Limpopo . The prob with my 30 grx 2001 then was jerking , power loss and high egt going up steep mountain passes esp between graaf reinett and cradock . I eventual ly went to Nissan bela bela and the mechanic simply bypassed a bunch if inline after market fuel filters that previous owners had installed for whatever reason .
And , whala , after all that missioning , she went and still drives like a dream !!! Even pushed her to 180kmp/h VERY BRIEFLY . She's a bit battered and scratched after 10 months hard labour in the bush but then is a work horse not a fashion model . Also pulls lots of inferior vehicles like cruisers out of trouble .
Regards to all
Nick
Post Reply

Return to “09. Engines”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests