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Tinus

Met betrekking tot jou kontakte vir bande - Is dit slegs vir 4x4 bande of sluit dit ook gewone motorbande in?
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Jorrie gee m net n lkui enige babde !!!y
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In your not so humble opinions Gentleman??

Goodyear Wrangler with the Kevlar 285/75/16 or Cooper STT 305/70/16.

Same price Coopers are 2nd hand
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Are the Goodyears the new MTRs?

In that case I would go with the new 285/75R16 Goodyear Wrangler MTRs. I had the old MTRs on a previous 3.5 Pajero that I owned and they worked well.

The 285/75R16s and 305/70R16s are almost exactly the same diameter and I am not really a fan of very wide tires. The 305s will rub more heavily in the wheel arches than the 285s. 285/75R16 seems to be a size that fits the Patrol well and work well.
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Ek sal ook nie groter as 285 gaan nie almal wat ek van weet wat 305 het , het probleme met skuur ens
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Tinus lotz wrote:Ek sal ook nie groter as 285 gaan nie almal wat ek van weet wat 305 het , het probleme met skuur ens
Issie Tinus - jy moet net sorg dat jou suspension ook gelig word! :biggrin:
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In my opinion a suspension lift does not really guarantee that rubbing will be eliminated, unless the bump stops are also extended downwards. This is because the suspension can still use all available travel when flexing. Using rims with a little less offset helps reduce rubbing when flexing.
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Gerrit, this depends on the car I guess.

On mine, with the 33"x 12.5" (equavalent to 305) on the standard wheels, the front wheels where not touching, but the rear tires where catching the inside of the wheel arch at full articulation.

Then the rims cracked and I fitted mags which are both slightly wider, and have less negative offset (IE the track has become slightly wider). This solved the problem at the back, but gave me a problem at the front. This one though is between the tire and the mudflaps at their attachment points, and was thus independent of suspension flex but a function of steering angle. In other words a (moderate) lift or change of bump stops would still not have helped, and I ended up changing the mudflaps.

However, the Y61 has considerably more room than the Y60. This problem could also possibly have been solved by moving the front axle forward slightly.

I am very happy with the diameter of 33", as I think it has more advantages than disadvantages, but would ideally like to have a narrower tire (mainly for less rolling resistance), but these are not available locally (if at all) for 15" rims, and therefore once the current tires are worn-out, I will either change to 32", or change to 16" wheels with 285/75 R16 (or possibly even narrower if possible).
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Similar situation as Peter - 33" by 12.5" muddies on 15" rims (with a stupidly wide offset) without bump stop alterations and also no rubbing. Only difference is that Chuck is a Y61 model...

OK, OK... I must admit that I had a slight catching problem with the inside top of the right front mudflap's attachment point! It only occurred when reversing down a lekker axle twister whilst turning right at full steering lock. Half a minute with a heat gun followed by a bit of pressure (to re-shape the offending bit of mud flap half a centimeter out of the way) solved it permanently.

Because my Patrol isn't a daily driver, I'll stick to the largest MTs with the most aggressive tread pattern that I can afford. And even if it were a daily driver, I'd probably stick to the same size tyre...
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