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Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 05:42
by Clem
Hi guys, has anyone used a Jack Buddy on their Patrol and if so, what was the outcome? I'm thinking of maybe trying one, though I'm still not quite sure where I'm going to put the jack. Looked at airbags but they seem too big and clumsy to cart around.

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 06:31
by Tinus lotz
I have used a simmilar system to hook on wheel can be useful. ...BUT....when on slippery surfaces or sand and the bottom foot of jack moves it has a way to fall over towards car ??
IMHO rather fit some jacking points you will get more safe lifting with them beacouse the jack pivots on the point .

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 08:29
by Clem
Thanks Tinus. I've used Hi-Lift jacks plenty so know their pros and cons. Indeed on the bodywork risk. I've actually considered asking someone to make up a type of jack buddy that uses adjustable metal arms etc (design is in my head) so that the "mouth" that the jack's lifting point fits into can't rotate in the vertical plane. Would make it very safe to use a Hi-Lift jack this way. Then there would be no risk (or very little) of bodywork damage. I hear you on proper lifting points - but I'm not there with this car yet and may not be for a long time still - maybe never. So, another plan required in the meantime. Will have to overhaul my jack too - nou al bietjie baie moeg! :-)

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 08:56
by ricster
Tinus, the H/L jack as far as i know also pivots on the wheel buddy.

H/L jacks are very handy to have, when you need it...... but so far I have never needed one. These ( Quality ) H/L jacks are not cheep and you need a loooooooooong one for a patrol. They are cumbersome to have on you car, and could just land up being an expensive ornament for people to look at when you drive by. But this also depends on what and where you are going, and what you are going to do with your Patrol. Having said that you are, I assume, already in possession of the H/L jack.

The std Patrol jack, in my opinion is a brilliant jack and have used it on many occasions.

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 09:04
by Kagiso II
I carry an Air Bag in the Prado [blerri plestik Toy het geen HI LIFT punte nie] and the air bag folds very flat -- hardly takes up ANY space ..
I have a Hi Lift .. but that will be going on LOBO when he's back from his re make :-)
Also -- Body damage by the Hi Lift jack has never bothered me. I dont lift on the sides. ONLY on the bumpet IF it is of steel and thus equippet with lifting poits.
I dont use Hi Lift for changing a wheel .. only for recovery.
In 25 years I have needed a Hi Lift jack twice. I have NEVER needed a second spare wheel. I have snapped a fan belt once ...
Sometimes we over compensate .. but it's like a parachute .. if you need it and you dont have it .. you are in it .. DEEP like :confused: :biggrin: :helpsign: :helpsign: :helpsign:

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 10:10
by Clem
Kagiso II wrote:I carry an Air Bag in the Prado [blerri plestik Toy het geen HI LIFT punte nie] and the air bag folds very flat -- hardly takes up ANY space ..
I have a Hi Lift .. but that will be going on LOBO when he's back from his re make :-)
Also -- Body damage by the Hi Lift jack has never bothered me. I dont lift on the sides. ONLY on the bumpet IF it is of steel and thus equippet with lifting poits.
I dont use Hi Lift for changing a wheel .. only for recovery.
In 25 years I have needed a Hi Lift jack twice. I have NEVER needed a second spare wheel. I have snapped a fan belt once ...
Sometimes we over compensate .. but it's like a parachute .. if you need it and you dont have it .. you are in it .. DEEP like :confused: :biggrin: :helpsign: :helpsign: :helpsign:
Kagiso, what make of airbag do you have?

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 10:12
by Clem
ricster wrote:Tinus, the H/L jack as far as i know also pivots on the wheel buddy.

H/L jacks are very handy to have, when you need it...... but so far I have never needed one. These ( Quality ) H/L jacks are not cheep and you need a loooooooooong one for a patrol. They are cumbersome to have on you car, and could just land up being an expensive ornament for people to look at when you drive by. But this also depends on what and where you are going, and what you are going to do with your Patrol. Having said that you are, I assume, already in possession of the H/L jack.

The std Patrol jack, in my opinion is a brilliant jack and have used it on many occasions.
Hi-Lift jack is not for wheel changing (it's damned dangerous for that) but for vehicle recovery, especially in heavy mud. There are places I might still be if I had not had a Hi-Lift jack. But that *was* with a Land Rover. :-)

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 11:05
by Tinus lotz
Evertime a car gets stuck the one corner drops ......the weight is transferred to the lower part when you need to jack car up somewhere it needs to be attached to car this then works as a hinge. ...I have never needed a hi lift with my patrol but have used it extensively when I worked with eskom years ago ....when overlanding on your own its a very critical tool
I dont like the bag beacouse when your car is stuck in a swamp of sort you can never get it under the dropped area without digging a hole under the car first .

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 21:10
by Stefan
I have a jack-buddy, used it a couple of times - works very well.

Re: Jack Buddy

Posted: 22 Oct 2014 21:28
by Russ Kellermann
used mine a good few time , ...works like a bomb! When my patrol is loaded heavy its very difficult to get the back axle high off the ground, and unnecessary if only one wheel lift is needed, or if the trail is tight / ledge on one side and you not keen to jack and throw off the jack....

Thats when you quickly use the jack buddy, works great and its quick, easy and safe!