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Jerry can side mount
Posted: 10 Aug 2023 12:10
by ra_01
Hi
I have a roof top tent (full length) on top and there isn't enough space for a extra fuel. So I have been thinking of using FR side mount jerry can for Y61 on the side? Since this is gutter mount, the entire weight of the holder can be managed by it, however, I may have to drill some holes on the body panel and use a metal strip to hold it properly from inside.
Alternatively I could go for long rage fuel tank or rear bumper with jerry mounts. Both are out of my budget at the moment.
What is your opinion on this type of set up? I have seen lots of Landcruisers (70 series) using these to mount double jerry's.
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 10 Aug 2023 19:05
by Witbobbejaan
Isn't this marketed for Land Rover?
If this is going to be hanging next to a window, you should obviously check how secure it is on rough terrain. And does the gutter mount lock? If not, it could be an easy steal.
PS. Am I confusing you with someone else, or did you have one of those i-camper type tents that fold out to the side? I thought those left you fair amount of empty roof space compared to a normal hard shell.
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 11 Aug 2023 07:26
by ra_01
Hi Dion
Yes it will lock to the gutter with it's mount. It's just attached to the body panel with a metal plate from inside to secure it from bottom. But the entire weight will be taken care by the gutter.
No you are not confused
The Ikamper I have is a four sleeper, therefore not enough room on rack.
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 11 Aug 2023 10:11
by Dewald
Good day Rahul.
I have a similar setup on my Patrol on both sides, the bottom of the holder sits in a piece of stainless 20x20 angle iron and is bolted to it. There is 4 rivnuts installed in the body and the angle iron is bolted to them.
Regards
Dewald
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 11 Aug 2023 13:16
by ra_01
Dewald wrote: ↑11 Aug 2023 10:11
Good day Rahul.
I have a similar setup on my Patrol on both sides, the bottom of the holder sits in a piece of stainless 20x20 angle iron and is bolted to it. There is 4 rivnuts installed in the body and the angle iron is bolted to them.
Regards
Dewald
Hi Dewald
Thank you this is exactly what I was looking for. How is it holding up in corrugations? Your jerry can holder looks different to FR, can you tell me where you got it from?
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 12 Aug 2023 07:50
by Dewald
Hi Rahul
The previous owner had them made so it a Home made brand.
The are very well made with a place for a strap to go around and it has a cable that goes from the bottom and it can run through the handle and be locked at the top.
Seems to be holding up great considering the previous owner did extensive touring through Africa going as far as Ethiopia so it did lots of very bad corrugated roads. At 2 of the 8 rivnuts there seems to have a small crack on the side on the body.
Personaly I would have rather attached a broad metal piece with double sided Nano Tape to the body and then fasten the holder to that piece. The Nano Tape sticks like crazy and woud also help absorb the vibration. I think it worthwhile to give this ago first before drilling.
Alternatively as you suggested a strip on the inside will work or even just some large body washers on the inside when installing rivnuts should also distribute the load sufficient.
Regards
Dewald
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 12 Aug 2023 20:00
by Peter Connan
Of all the options to carry extra fuel or water externally, I think this is perhaps second only to larger fuel tanks as regards the effects on vehicle dynamics.
However I don't like the idea that all the weight is carried by just a 100mm section of gutter, and would try to beef up the bottom mounting.
And of course, the only vehicle which increases in value when you drill holes in it is made in England and leaks.
I don't know the nano tape Dewald describes but I think it may be worth a try. If you install riv-nuts instead, make sure they are sealed (blind) stainless steel units.
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 13 Aug 2023 11:14
by ra_01
Dewald wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023 07:50
Hi Rahul
The previous owner had them made so it a Home made brand.
The are very well made with a place for a strap to go around and it has a cable that goes from the bottom and it can run through the handle and be locked at the top.
Seems to be holding up great considering the previous owner did extensive touring through Africa going as far as Ethiopia so it did lots of very bad corrugated roads. At 2 of the 8 rivnuts there seems to have a small crack on the side on the body.
Personaly I would have rather attached a broad metal piece with double sided Nano Tape to the body and then fasten the holder to that piece. The Nano Tape sticks like crazy and woud also help absorb the vibration. I think it worthwhile to give this ago first before drilling.
Alternatively as you suggested a strip on the inside will work or even just some large body washers on the inside when installing rivnuts should also distribute the load sufficient.
Regards
Dewald
Hi Dewald,
Thanks for the tip, I have used 3m Nano double sided tapes to secure storage compartments made of canvas to the glass part of the barn door from inside. However, although gutter mount is doing most of the heavy lifting, but I am not sure if that tape will hold a 20lit jerry can. Because with enough force I can pull it off.
A metal strip (perhaps from both sides of the body) and proper washers will support the body fatigue I guess.
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 13 Aug 2023 11:33
by ra_01
Peter Connan wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023 20:00
Of all the options to carry extra fuel or water externally, I think this is perhaps second only to larger fuel tanks as regards the effects on vehicle dynamics.
However I don't like the idea that all the weight is carried by just a 100mm section of gutter, and would try to beef up the bottom mounting.
And of course, the only vehicle which increases in value when you drill holes in it is made in England and leaks.
I don't know the nano tape Dewald describes but I think it may be worth a try. If you install riv-nuts instead, make sure they are sealed (blind) stainless steel units.
Hi Peter thanks mate, I have waiting for your response, as you are very much clued up in these sort of things. Will certainly try to beef up bottom installation as much as possible. As for car value, I guess same applies for ladder, snorkel or anything that's related to body
Alternatively I could go for a rear bar, but I am not able to justify spending R30,000 or over for it just to hold 40 litres of fuel
Can you elaborate more on vehicle dynamics. Because the aerodynamics (of this brick) is already compromised with roof top tent on top. Do you think it will have more effect?
Re: Jerry can side mount
Posted: 13 Aug 2023 14:58
by Peter Connan
I am not qualified to speak on aerodynamics. In theory, increased frontal area will have an affect, but I can't quantify it. But in my opinion increased drag doesn't affect handling much (although obviously it could affect fuel consumption).
What I I'm talking about is balance, both height of center of gravity and the longitudinal center of gravity.
A swing arm is a long way behind the rear axle (probably 30-35%of the wheelbase), and causes pitching issues on bumpy roads. Making the CG higher obviously increases rolling motion.
That's why built-in tanks are better. There problems are cost and reliability.