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Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 08:40
by hugejp
Clem wrote: 19 Dec 2017 08:19 To be honest JP, I'm not wild about the OME setup. It makes the car more stable and gives a bit of a lift while significantly improving load carrying ability but it comes at the cost of also very significantly increasing harshness and vibration of bad road surfaces. THE OEM setup is far better for travelling at speed on bad surfaces and also results in much less driver fatigue. But as we know, everything is a compromise. Talking of which anyone replaced the coils in a Patrol with airbags? I see that there is a kit and I'm almost - but not quite - tempted.
Are you talking about a complete airbag replacement unit?

I.e. air suspension?

That is totally another story...

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 09:32
by Clem
Yup. Total replacement. They are available but I am not trally serious about it.

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 09:34
by offroadbiker
I had the air bags that fits inside the coil springs in my previous GQ, they worked very nice when loaded, only thing is to make sure that they are always at minimum pressure when not in use to ensure they don't get damaged when not used for a heavy load.

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 09:52
by hugejp
Clem wrote: 19 Dec 2017 09:32 Yup. Total replacement. They are available but I am not trally serious about it.
Who stocks them?? Price?

Would it be a tank & compressor setup? Basically an air-ride...

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 10:09
by hugejp

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 11:14
by Clem
hugejp wrote: 19 Dec 2017 09:52
Clem wrote: 19 Dec 2017 09:32 Yup. Total replacement. They are available but I am not trally serious about it.
Who stocks them?? Price?

Would it be a tank & compressor setup? Basically an air-ride...
Some crowd in CT. Will look for their details again...

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 11:28
by hugejp
Is it by any chance Gremeltech?

I got my compressor from them, Jochi is a very helpful chap.

http://airsuspension.co.za

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 11:49
by Mystical_Beast
I must say I like the idea of the air suspension, especially the available lift but only when required.
In this link it shows it quite well
But this I imagine will easily cost 50 to 60 k to do which is why its not going to be done anytime soon.
Gremeltech quoted me around 9k per corner on the Range Rover, more than LandRover themselves.

British 4X4 I think was offering a Firestone products for about half that, around 4.5k for replacement part for LandRover, but in my particular case I was looking for original Delphi air springs from alternative source other than LR agents.
Couldn’t find anywhere, except e-bay etc.
If one could do a corner for 4.5 k then it’s extremely feasible I would think.

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 13:01
by Alex Roux
Air suspension nice for corrugated roads and all, but what about flex?...especially on solid axles, I would be concerned with the strain placed on the side where the wheel is flexing out.

Re: Steering shudder on braking

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 17:27
by Peter Connan
Speak to Abri. He has done it, and used it for several years. Flex on that GQ was pretty impressive...