Nissan Patrol 4x4 (Africa)

The clutch only started slipping at Maun (with trailer in tow) on my way back to SA. I had to nurse it to get to SA and just short of Potties it went.

DawidT wrote:The clutch only started slipping at Maun (with trailer in tow) on my way back to SA. I had to nurse it to get to SA and just short of Potties it went.

So in your case it gave you some warning. I did not experience any warning. So if it is the clutch, then it failed dramatically and quickly and with now discernible sound.
I will do the diagnoses that Peter has suggested, once I have the car again. It remains in storage with Graham for now. Will most likely take it back to the original engine converter to disassemble and fix/replace. Another thing with conversions....not everyone is keen on working on them. They do not know what they are going to unearth.

Peter Connan wrote:I would start by listening with a stethoscope or long screwdriver. If the end is held against the gearbox and with the engine running the clutch is stroked, there should be a change in sound. Also different gears should make different sounds. Remember that even with the box in neutral, most of the gearbox internals should still be rotating with the clutch released, and coasting to a stop when it is pressed.

I'll just start it let it idle and see if i can change gears without using the clutch, without getting the steto out. If you can put it into reverse and 1st without the clutch then you know you have a problem in the input/clutch side , and then check if the 4x4 lights come on when you have 4h and 4l, that will show if your short lever is engaging or at least moving something in the transfer cases

Hello Alex.

Dit is moeilik om te se voordat die komponente of ratkas uit is maar ek dink jou koppelaar was baie warm en het toe te vinnig afgekoel.

Dit is tien teen een die pressure plaat se fingers wat ingegee het.

Jy kan hom ook na xxx gearbox en diff neem, die ouens het al twee van my voertuie reggemaak, hulle ken hulle storie en is regtig billik, hulle is in Centurion.

Groete

Alex I think the input shaft has sheared off behind the clutch plate because everything was to quite when trying to run start your car.....I hope i'm wrong

have you not have any feedback from Graham ..??

(1) The knuckle at the base of the gear lever slipped off so the lever moves but the gears stay in neutral.
(2) any of the aforementioned glitches .. but still not 'lekker'

petrol wrote:Hello Alex.
Dit is tien teen een die pressure plaat se fingers wat ingegee het.
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Ek is seker mens sou dit "voel" want die cutch gaan baie sagter wees, of dalk heeltemal onder bly?

Ek glo steeds as dit iets is wat af geshear het, sou mens dit gevoel en gehoor gebuer het.

Ek het eenkeer 'n clutch se disc van sy hub afgedraai, en mens kon dit duidelik voel.

Ek is baie nuskurig om tie hoor wat daar gebeur het.
Wat is die plan Alex? Gaan julle maar die boks uif haal?

Michael wrote:Ek is baie nuskurig om tie hoor wat daar gebeur het.
Wat is die plan Alex? Gaan julle maar die boks uif haal?

Attie wat die conversion gedoen het, gaan hom kom haal by Graham se shop volgende week.
Dan sal ons maar vervang wat stukkend is.
Omdat die kar se setup nie bekend is met ander mense nie, wil ander mense nie daaraan werk nie.
Volgens Attie hoef mens slegs twee engine mountings los te maak wat dan genoeg spasie bewerkstellig om die ratkas uit te haal en nuwe clutch in te sit.

Ek moet se die teorie van clutch wat warm is en nat word (vinnig afkoel) begin vir my sin maak.
Ons was deur die water na 'n warm gery wat dit voooraf gegaan het. Ek hoop maar dit is die clutch.
Anders sal ek daarna moet shop vir ratkas of parte.

Wat ookal fout is, sal mens moet oopmaak en uithaal om te vervang.
Sal op hoogte hou van diagnose. Dan leer ons almal daaruit.

Ek gaan heelwaarskynlik nie 'n vakansie kar he nie. Moet nou begin plan maak....