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Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 10:29
by JoshJ
Hi Petri,

Dit maak my hart bly dat jy kyk na n 3.0liter. :lol: . Die ZD30 het n slegte repetasie en ek neem jou nie kwalik as jy twyfel nie. Die nuwe CRD motor is egter in n klas van sy eie. Daar is baie aan die motor verander om hom meer betroubaar te maak. Ek is so happy dat ek binne kort n 3.0CRD bakkie wil koop. Jy kan die link onder volg om meer te leer oor die verskille tussen die oue en die nuwe ene. Maak dis seker jy koop n CRD.

http://www.patrol4x4.co.za/viewtopic.ph ... hilit=Zd30

Hy is nie n krag vraat as hy uit die fabriek uitkom nie, maar n paar mods sal hom gou in n respectable power range kry. Voor jy performance up, sit eers n madman en boost gauge in. Dan kan jy veilig speel. 2 goed wat n groot verskil maak en baie min geld kos, is n intercooler fan en n 3duim xhaust, gede-cat. 3 duim regdeur. Dit gee jou lae torque. My kar het geen turbo lag. Ek het egter, eers gefan en toe gechip met n dastec chip by SAC boksburg. My syfers was as volg. NB.. die is opi wiele syfers met 33duim KM2.
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Ek het onlangs die xhaust op gesit en sal binne kort gaan dyno. Ek skat daar gaan n stewige verhoging in die syfers wees, as ek gaan op wat ek voel. Die fan, chip en exhaust gee veilige krag. My Egt tempratuur is laer as toe hy standaard was. Ek kan n spoed van 150-160km/h handhaaf, bulte op sonder om my Egt oor 655grade te vat. Dit was oor n afstand van 45km hoof weg. So 120km/h is n given. Op 120 gps spoed loop hy teen 2500rpm. Ek vind om teen 3000rpm (128km/h gps) te ry maak dit baie makliker om vreeslike styl bulte my spoed te hou in 5de rat. Die kar is maklik om mee saam te leef as n daily driver. Van al my 4x4's wat ek al gery het is sy turning circle een van die bestes. Baie beter as n Navara bv. Bietjie slegter as n VX prado 150. My vrou ry hom elke dag. Dit sluit n school run, werk toe, winkels toe en terug. Sy kry maklik 8km/l. Dit was voor die exhaust. Ek toets nog die xhaust verskil, sal later feedback gee. As ek hom vergelyk met Micheal se 4.2TD lyk dit so, voor die xhaust. Uit die lyn uit klop hy my. My kar is 300kg swaarder as syne. Opad terug van die river trip, vol gelaai soos ons op die trip was het ons n bult genader en besluit om die bult te begin in 4de rat 80km/h en dan op n aanwysing die bult uit te versnel om te sien wat gebeur. Ek het baie gou die voor tou geneem. So ja ek is nuskierig om te sien wat hy nou met xhaust gaan doen. Ons karre is baie naby aan die selfde. Ons will ook saam vir n dyno gaan om te sien wat aangaan, want ons is al2 van die opinie dat die krag lewering ietwat anders is. Teen verskillende refs. So ja sleep behoort geen probleem te wees. Om dit vir jou in n ander perspektief te sit...... op n highway hou n std hilux en fortuner nie by my by nie. Neem ook in ag dat my kar n ton plus swaarder is as n hilux. My kar weeg in op n skaal teen 2.8ton. So jy hy boks ini heavy weight katogorie :lol:

Hoop al die info help. O ja........ krag en looks soek feul. Toe hy nog OE was het hy my maklik oor die 9km/l gegee. On geag hoe hard ek hom ry of van vrag of van toestande hy sal altyd meer ekonomies bly as n 4.8.

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 10:32
by JoshJ
biggles wrote:Does anyone have experience with the newer 3.0l towing heavy vans?

I spoke to the owner of a 3.0 a while back and he was very happy with it and said it had loads of poke.

We did a Namib toure, pre dastec chip, only intercoolerfan, 33 inch muds. 2 adults, 3 highs school kids. Kar packed to the brim, venter bushbaby packed to the brim. I managed 120km/h no problems. :thumbup:

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 11:57
by biggles
JoshJ wrote:
biggles wrote:Does anyone have experience with the newer 3.0l towing heavy vans?

I spoke to the owner of a 3.0 a while back and he was very happy with it and said it had loads of poke.

We did a Namib toure, pre dastec chip, only intercoolerfan, 33 inch muds. 2 adults, 3 highs school kids. Kar packed to the brim, venter bushbaby packed to the brim. I managed 120km/h no problems. :thumbup:
I can do the same towing the 1500kg Xplorer... but the moment I hit a pass I am doing 50 with big trucks passing.

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 13:05
by JoshJ
biggles wrote:
JoshJ wrote:
biggles wrote:Does anyone have experience with the newer 3.0l towing heavy vans?

I spoke to the owner of a 3.0 a while back and he was very happy with it and said it had loads of poke.
Towing a 1500kg caravan with a 3000kg vehicle must do that to you :lol:

Due to the weight of a kitted patrol. I will not follow this route. The 1000kg between a avarage 4x4 and a patrol makes up for most of the weight of the caravan itself. Thats why they tend to tow better with the big riggs. Weight is a killer. So whether its a cruiser or a patrol. If you hook a 1500kg+ rigg. You are going to feel it.
I dont know how the ausies tow there 2.5ton riggs with such feggure :lol: . They must have a trick. I however would like to one day hook up n big offroad caravan behind my 3.0 just to see how it copes.


We did a Namib toure, pre dastec chip, only intercoolerfan, 33 inch muds. 2 adults, 3 highs school kids. Kar packed to the brim, venter bushbaby packed to the brim. I managed 120km/h no problems. :thumbup:
I can do the same towing the 1500kg Xplorer... but the moment I hit a pass I am doing 50 with big trucks passing.

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 17:46
by petri oosthuizen
Josh - EXTREMELY helpful info, thanks. I thought that it "must" be the CRDi engine because it's a 2012 model. Will now make very sure, will get a pic of the engine bay and post it :wink:

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 18:52
by JoshJ
Just a pleasure :thumbup:
I will be comming back from the western cape om 30 march. I can sleep over at bloem for an overnight. If you havent bought yet, you are well come to test drive my patrol if you are availible.

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 05 Mar 2016 18:54
by JoshJ
O i see you are in betlehem. Sorry for some reason i thought it was bloem. QQQ :lol:

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 06 Mar 2016 08:58
by hitsch
Guude
I bought my patrol especially for trailer towing. I have a special 3.5 ton trailer for transporting timber to my sites. The best point is that the patrol is heavy so the trailer doesn't swing the car while driving. May some of you know windhoek and how much hills we have here,I have never had any problems getting the trailer to my sites. The patrol got now 52k on 1/3 of this is towing. We always manage 100 kmh fully loaded. Up hill around 70-80 kmh.This means 1 ton on the back and 3.5 trailer. Empty trailer is around 1 ton and we driving normal speed till 140 kmh. The only mods I have done are the exhaust. I'm very happy with the patrol,it's a real working car. I will have a look for some pics of the patrol fully loaded
Greetings

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 06 Mar 2016 12:04
by JoshJ
Jo. Thats incredible. Thanx for sharing. I'll have to re-think my Patrols abilities and apologize to him. Shoe.

Re: 2012/3/4/5 Patrol Diesel - Yes or No??

Posted: 08 Mar 2016 09:48
by petri oosthuizen
Quick question please.
The owner says that he thinks the engine is a ZD30DDTi, 118 Kw and 380 nM........it's a 2012 model. Does this sound like the CRD engine??

He'll post pics of the engine bay tonight.

Thanks :thumbup: