One DEAD Patrol

[KOOS BEST]

Hi almal, ek verstaan julle feite heeltemal .
Frans brei bietjie uit vir ons, oor die voor-en nadele van die enjins.
Diesel enjins is nie so goed soos algemeen voorgegee word nie, mens hoor heeldag en lees hoeveel beter ens. dit is as n sleepvoertuig , veldvoertuig ens is as n petrol enjin , vir my is dit bietjie dik vir n daler.
Hey! ons argumenteer mos nie , ons ruil kennis uit , so verander mens jouself of iemand anders se standpunt en siening oor n onderwerp. Dit is die nice ding van die forum. Pieter het juis die EGT roete gevolg agv. hierdie forum as ek reg onthou.
Groetnis

[Ross]

Eish Oom Mac,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. As others have mentioned, it sounds like classic symptoms of when a "hand grenade" goes bang!

This is a known issue with the 3.0TD, and there is a precedent for Nissan SA to fix this issue even quite far out of warrantee (or at least covering a portion of the costs), so I think it is worth pushing that angle if you can. If I remember correctly Abri from this forum had the 3.0TD in his hardbody go bang a few years back, so maybe he has some advice on how/if you can recover some costs from Nissan SA?

In any case, I agree with what Pieter and Frans have to say in the discussion above.

I wish you all the best with getting the Patrol back on the road, and I hope that it is not too heavy on the wallet! Once you have her back up and running, PLEASE read this excellent post that Pieter posted a while back, and get an EGT gauge fitted:

http://www.patrol4x4.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=444

If you follow the advice, and fit an EGT gauge you will be 99.9% certain of avoiding another catastrophe in future.

Good luck, hope you are back up and running soon,

Cheers,

Ross

[Abri Hoffman]

Ai Oom Mac, dis nou jammer om te hoor.

Ross is reg, my Hardbody wat ek nuut gekoop het in 2002, het soos 'n droom geloop tot ek hom op 140k km verkoop het in 2007. Die aand wat die nuwe eienaar hom gekry het, het hy gaan staan met 'n gat in Piston nr 3. Lang storie kort, ek het gelees van die probleme op die Aus forums en is na Schuss Nissan Parow, so twee weke na ek hom daar gelos het, het hulle my gekontak en gese die nuwe engine is oppad.

Totale koste vir my was nuwe clutch, skoonmaak van verkoeler en nuwe injector tips. - R12 000. Nissan het die totale koste van die engine en arbeid gedra. So 3 weke na myne het Johan Sevenster se 2002 Hardbody met aftermarket intercooler en chip gegaan op soortgelyke km's. Syne het hy egter tweedehands gekoop. Weereens het Nissan die engine vervang op hulle koste.

Druk hulle bietjie, hierdie is 'n algemene probleem op die ZD30's. Ek stel egter voor dat oom Jochi by Schuss Nissan in Parow kontak, lyk my het kry dinge reg.

Voorspoed

[KOOS BEST]

Hi , this is an extract from the Reference document.

"It seems that the 2000 to 2001 model enine block was not designed with enough oil channels or they were inadequate so the lower cylinder walls were not receiving enough lubrication. This have caused additional heat and may have contributed to the engine blow up issues.
Also these versions did not have enough oil capacity in the sump so when driving hard all the oil enede up in the top of the engine with the sump running dry. Nissan had a fix for the lack of oil capacity and shortened the dip stick on older models to increase the capacity.
Nissan fix for the blown engines was an overhaul kit (part no MK101 VC 128AU which braeks into 12 individual parts )whick replace the block and new pistons etc. As this kit was available it seems there was an issue. Although no manufacturer will go public on any majaor fault, the engines were repaired on as required basis"

So Oom Mac , probeer dit.

Abri, correct me if I am wrong but a Nissan, technical guy from Rosslyn told me the ZD 30 engines in Hardbody and Patrol share the same name but the Patrol engine is an French design and Hardbody Japanese. He said they are by all definitions not the same motor.

[Abri Hoffman]

Koos, dont know.

As far as I have it the differences are that the Patrol have variable vane turbo and intercooler which the Hardbody does not have. Appart from that same displacement, Patrol has however 10% more power and 15 - 20% more torque. The problems as explained on the Aus sites for Patrol engines that blew are exactly what I experienced on my Hardbody. I am also aware of ZD30's that has been replaced by Nissan SA.

[Pieter du Toit]

Pieter het juis die EGT roete gevolg agv. hierdie forum as ek reg onthou.

100% korrek Koos - dit het my Patrol en my sak gered!!!

[JG Shields]

Sterkte Oom Mac. Ek hou met angs die herstel op AGAROB dop. Synde ek ook hier in Pretoria lewe en baie, baie, baie ergernis met handelaars gehad het, hoop ek Imperial sal die ding reg doen. Hopelik is hulle wat ons lankal na soek.

[tour de frans]

Ek het n moerse post geskryf oor die onderwerp,ek tik met een vinger so dit vat lank en toe ek submit is hy weg en ek af gelog. Ek is nou eers vies en sal later weer by julle aansluit oor die gesprek.Ek wil graag want die goed loop in my bloed
Groete

[ChristoSlang]

Oom Mac, ek's jammer om te hoor van Agarob se skade - ek hoop die rekening is nie te woes nie

My Patrollie het mos ook 'n so 'n EGT sensor en ek vind dat die posisie van die brandstofpedaal - en tot 'n kleiner mate ook die ratkeuse - die grootste invloed op daai uitlaatgastemperatuur het. Wanneer die buitetemperature styg raak my trok se verkoelerwater egter BAIE warm - daai metertjie op die dash gaan kuier daarso net onder die rooi gedeelte en my EMS rapporteer 'n allervreeslike 118 grade C! Gedurende al hierdie gebeure styg die EGT egter glad nie oor die 580 grade C nie. As ek minder woema gee, kom die temperatuur geleidelik weer mooi af.

Die kar verloor niks water uit die oorvloei reservoir wanneer hy so warm word nie, en die temperatuur gaan ook nooit verby daai amper-in-rooi punt nie. Die aircon sit homself mos ook af op daai stadium (hy't 'n sensor onder die engine se radiator) om te keer dat dinge breek.

Ek stem saam, ons tipe diesel engines is verseker nie gebou om mee resies te jaag nie...

[Stefan]

Jammer om te hoor oom Mac, Hoop Agarob is gou weer op die pad.