Nissan Patrol 4x4 (Africa)

Thanks guys !!

Regarding keeping the weight down to a minimum....phew....Swambo is going to battle with that one !!!......

hi Ric-man - Ek gan sommer my antwoord van annerkant op di eNissan forum forum vir jou hier ook deurgee [weet nie of jy dit daai kant gesien het nie?]

Ricster - keep the Duellers - others my match it but just about only Pirelli may beat it
Big secret of sand - the smoother your tread - the better you float

A 235 tyre with 85 profile will give the same or better than a 265/60 because a tyre's footprint gets "longer" with deflation [and logically, the bigger the circumference, the bigger the footprint. The wider the tyre gets, the more roll resistance you get in soft sand [it creates a "wall" in front of it which the torque must then overcome] - Oh, and bear in mind that the footprint NEVER gets wider with deflation because the tread cannot expand sideways.

I have 265's 70 x 16 on my vehicles [but that width is more for the looks than for purpose - Wish I had a set of 235 / 85 / 16 for my "bush trips"

Also to keep in mind - neither of us [the two of us I mean] is related to the Rockefellers, so we buy the best "all rounder"] (It's like buying a rifle and you can have only ONE .. then you buy a 270, because it does everything demmmmm good]

So - again, keep those Duellers - because in sand .. they just kick backside. Fullstop.

OH - and going into dunes & soft sand with M/T's ??? I would NOT [they churn up the sand and thus a diesel suffers because the diesel cannot create the speed and acceleration that a petrol does.


Now - for all of you, this is just about the very last time that I sit and do a grammar perfect posting - next time - you get it it Afrikaans and I'll do it MY WAY

Dankie Oom. Het die post daar gesien en nou het ek "I did it my way" in my kop

Hi Cedrick

Have you seen the tire Q&A in the new SA4x4? They (Johan Tires who has been recommended on this forum by the guys in the Cape) also seem to recomend M/T's for the dunes? To be honest though, I still think the tires you have, although possibly not the best money can buy, are probably quite adequate.

Cheers
Peter

I have been so busy lately, I haven't even looked at the pattern on the toilet paper..... ... I will go get a copy today !!..... Thanks mate

Hi daar
na al hierdie wyse woorde wat die manne jou gegee het moet jy net een ding onthou>>>>>>
al daai camel jokkies bo aan ons kontinent ry nie verniet patols in die woestyn nie
hulle is gebou daarvoor party models beter as ander maar nog beter as meeste ander voertuie!!!

Johann Tyres is meer in die duine as die suidooster

Thanks guys for all your responses.... They are appreciated !!!

Cedric, here's a picture that shows nicely what happens when you deflate your tires.

Notice the decrease in ride height and gains in both length and width...

Nice illustration Christo! My opinion:

1. The difference between inflated and deflated tyres makes a bigger difference than the difference between spec tyres. No, I am not saying that the tyre spec does not make a difference at all, but when price difference comes into play though, I am not sure if the difference between spec tyres are worth the money. I think we place to much emphasys on difference between tyres.

2. It reminds me of 13 year old boys arguing which cricket bat is the best...when the technical ability to play a good cricket shot is much more important. Therefore, in my mind the role that the sole beneath the shoe where it hits the excellerator, is arguably as important than the tyre pressure. My weightings to be successful in sand would be: 40% tyre pressure, 40% driver ability and 10% tyre selection.