Wheel bearings

[marakasmalan]

That SAC deal does not sound too bad, I must say. All the seals only from Nissan is about R1200.

However, for those who want to do it themselves I am ordering within the next hour from Down Under, estimate that it will be about R2100 shipping and tax included. the benefit is that one gets bearings and seals that is 100% to specification and needs no machining. Let me know ASAP if I must order more.

It should be here next week Wednesday

Regards

Marnus

[ricster]

Is that for both sides and all seals Marnus?

[ricster]

Hmmm,.... and for my Y61 diesel... I assume these seals are all the same size for Y60 and Y61.... Manual or Auto lock hubs

[marakasmalan]

There is one kit for the GU and GQ models, it specifically states "Wheel bearing kit for Y60/Y61". Have a look at the link post earlier.

Regards

[marakasmalan]

It says GQ/GU '87 - '04

nothing about post '04...

[marakasmalan]

@davejones,

Did they replace the needle bearing as well? Did you see the old bearings? Still puzzled about the bearing replacement required at 150k, was it due to water ingress? If so, is it not maybe some other seal that is moeg?

Regards

[davejones]

I'll ask, but i dont see any description - in the quote it says

Wheel bearing ("wb") small: 289.48
wb big: 2065.80
wb oil seal: 96.48

Also surprised with the need for a replacement. and had my bearings checked by Nissan when i first got the patrol at 120Kkm... and i know they checked them because they had replaced the wheel nuts and stubs which had been stripped...

[davejones]

an update on this

So when i went down to the tankwa karoo, i pulled off onto dirt and immediately stopped to let down the tire pressures. Got back into the patrol, engaged 4wd, and pull off with a clicking sound coming from the front right wheel hub.

think to myself, this doesnt seem right, slow down to a stop immediately. disengage, re-engage. Same noise. Hmpf

Think it can only be due to the wheel bearings having recently been replaced, but cannot tell, it's close to midnight and i'm still 400km from sutherland, so will complete the drive in 2wd. Patrol is loaded, she's driving perfectly.

Complete in total over 900km on dirt road on the round trip to tankwa and back. Was simply breathtaking - i truly love the northern cape and its friendly people!

A short summary of the trip below

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When i get back to johannesburg, i take the car back to SAC Centurion. They still need to look at the turbo boost gauge which is faulty, and tap it into the oil pressure instead, and i ask if they can check out the bearings.

Get a phone call the next day. Sorry sir but your auto hubs are on their way out, this is why you getting the knocking sound, they're not allowing the car to engage 4wd....... and it's going to cost your R22K......

My reaction is one of disbelief, which i express, and ask them to give me a few hours to phone around, do some research, and come back to them with a proposal. I'm now shitting myself with this news. my whole 4x4 foundation has been rocked.

So i get hold of Graham / Pathmaker at G-tec motors. He explains to me - for the GU patrol, they should not have recommended machined bearings... the best solution is to go the factory parts, or else you do risk situations where you end up damaging one's hubs. Additionally, when going aftermarket, the guys doing the service often will cut other corners (for example on seals) therefore potentially creating future problems.

So now I have a thought... i need to replace not only the hubs, but also now switch to stealer bearings. $$$$$$$ big time. I'm not feeling very happy.

However, it is plain to both of us, that it's the wheel bearing job that is causing this clicking noise. Mostly likely the auto hub trying but failing to engage. Graham also quite confident that the hub is not damaged, but that the guys at SAC just not the experts on drivetrain, as they are on engines.

TO SAC CENTURIONS CREDIT - they were ultimately very accommodating and despite initially telling me it is not the bearing (no one wants a R20K + bill), and having offered to take me through the technical explanation as to why it wasnt their bearing job (which i politely declined as who am i to question and expert in his field anyway), they were willing to speak with Graham (who offered to "represent" me... for free nogal - cold beers will come your way Graham).

A long story short a and a few days later, SAC phones me, and all that was required was further machining of the bearing, which allowed for accurate seating and therefore the autohub is now engaging as it should, and is not damaged as SAC initially assumed. SAC went as far as admitting to me that they don't know everything, and actually thanked me for putting them onto Graham.

So overall a very pleasant experience. Of course, if damage to the auto hubs had in fact been done, and there was money on the table, it may well have turned out differently.... but it didnt, and i feel we all managed to work together in a civilised manner to find the best solution to what was potentially a very fiery situation.

I am very impressed with SAC Centurion and think the guys there are sincere and professional. so thank you Grant for consistently giving them kudos.

And also a big thanks to Graham, who patiently took my calls, counselled me through some emotional outbreaks, and ultimately through experience and his own lessons in the trade, was able to be a huge help!!

[ricster]

WOW.... that is fantastic service and customer relations..... I say this "tongue in cheek".... but some Nissan Dealerships could learn a bit from this.... work together with some of the guys in the field... there is a LOAD of experience out there.

To Mynhard and the guys at SAC, and to Graham from G-Tech.... you guys rock !!! This is why, and where we as Patrol owners, support these guys. I have taken my Iron Maiden to SAC a few times, and always been happy. I have never dealt with Graham, only spoken to him a few times, but I would have no worries letting him tinker with my sweet Maiden

Well done guys !!!!

[Mokobi]

Great info. I hope I am understanding this correctly that you can NOT fit after market bearings in the front, its either originals or you re-make the originals in already in the vehicle