URGENT HELP REQUIRED PLEASE!!

[Pieter du Toit]

Gerrit

Nee dis absoluut fine - ek aanvaar dit ook so maar go my vry jy is beter en vinniger as enige Nissan onderdele man met ten minste part nommers - die kon hulle nog nie eers vir my gee nie en ek het al gister met Nissan gepraat. Wys jou net wat kan gedoen word as mens bereid is om bietjie moeite te doen.

Anycase - ek het jou lys net so ge-copy en paste en dit vir Ettiene Kuhn by Schus Nissan gemail en gevra hy moet kyk of dit op match met enige part nommers van ons plaaslike 4.2's Volgens hom is die 12279-51N02 die enigste nommer wat met ons 4.2's vereenselwig word. Enige gut feeling aan jou kant??

Ek het twee plekke in Dubai gevind wat volgens hulle websites beide parte (06J01 EN 51N02) beskikbaar het - het reeds met my peetkind gepraat en al die details vanmiddag vir haar gemail. Sy sal more bel en hoor wat hulle se - en vir my pryse uitvind. En as sy dit more kan kry - kan sy dit don op die aerie sit saam met een van haar kollegas en dan kan ek al don middag 16h00 met die part in die hand staan.

Ek begin darem so bietjie meer positief voel - die ouens wat die job doen gaan net hul vinger moet trek - was nou net daar en hulle het nou eers begin. Sodra hulle die seel uit het behoort ek ook met n part nommer in my hand te kan staan wat baie sal help.

Dankie eers en groete - ek sal jul op hoogte hou!!!

[ricster]

Sorry Pieter, I've been on leave for a week and just popped into the office for a few minutes. Unfortunately I don't know much about those oil seals.... This is a concern to me too after my rebuild.... but so far so good....( touch wood) I hope you come right there mate !!!

[Kalahari Safari]

Hey guys,

Just stumbled on this post and I have an imported TD42-T as well.
Turbo Diesel 4.2 without IC (fitted custom IC afterwards) JPN spec's

The issue of getting parts for these vehicles is the insane policy of Nissan to insist on VIN and once you produce such number they direct you to ... Japan, yes, had this when my gearbox 5th gear went bang.
Anyway, my way around is the Patrol forum down under http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/ whereas I found all my parts needed for gearbox or suspension within hours.
The rest is shipping and it works.

One useful info: "Nizzbits" is the guru for spares on this forum and he has access to all the part numbers and prices, so give it a try

* About Nizzbits
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nizzbits@hotmail.com
http://www.nizzbits.com.au

Hope it helps for all those with conversions and non standard rigs.
Cheers for now

[Pieter du Toit]

Hi all,

Thank you for all your postings and your help / advice - so far no luck None of the oil seal places can make up one - and if I do find an ordinary oilseal with the right id then the od is wrong - or vice versa.

I ordered part number 12279-06J01 from Dubai (on a gut feel because mine wan't out yet) - but it turned out to be the wrong part. The inside diameter of that seal is 84mm - my crank measures 96mm!!! See pic below of my seal.



If we look at the part numbers that Gerrit posted I went through the following process of elimination:

12279-43G02 - This seal only ways 37g - impossible with the housing it comes - it is all one mould.

12279-06J00 - Came in Patrols from 10/97 to 11/99 and also in Patrol Bakkie from 09/00 to date
12279-06J01 - Came in Patrols from 11/99 to date and the W41 bus from 11/99 to 10/02. These two seals are also interchangable (according to the Nissan Catalogue) - although one is 308g and one 310g. So was a good possibillity.

12279-51N02 - the only seal thus far I could not get - and according to Nissan Catalogue only came in the W41 Civilian Bus. But then my engine is an imported engine and nothing is impossible - although the seller says it came out of a Nissan Safari. Suely must be another possibility?? With an alu casing cut away 6mm on either side it could be the weight difference between 06J01 (310g) and 308g for this one
The new genuine Nissan part I got from Dubai comes in an alu casing - thus explaining the little weight. Mine is still a cast iron casing - but I am sure that should not be too much of a problem.

- The need is high and I am desperate!!! If there s anybody out there that could give me any other / further assistance it will be greatly appreciated. Otherwise I will be driving "Oom Jan tuis bly se karretjie"!!

Many Thanks & Kind Regards

[Kagiso II]

Hi Pieter - ek issi engineer nie maar dink nou so - kry een wat die O D reg is - die I D kannie so baie uit wees nie -
installeer - en ry [hou 'n ogie oor die olievlak al die pad, vul op soos nodig [4 kanne olie is goedkoper as 'n verlore vakansie]

Het jy al by Toyota probeer? en M/Benz - enige straight six? selfs BMW? [ek sou selfs by die trekker ouens genavraag het - daai 96mm is HUGE - dit hoort op 'n trok.
[anner neekery - dis "imsomnia" agies soos ek wat in Des oor 'n naweek inloer oppi forums. ]

ek het hirri op goegil gekry: http://www.dichta.com/products/Rotary-Shaft-Seals.html
http://www.dichta.com/products/O-rings- ... ml#idTab-3

en ook http://www.wantitall.co.za/ACDelco-8656 ... B0013FBN16

[Pieter du Toit]

Hello Oom Mac

Dankie vir daai links - sal hulle bietjie gaan beloer.

Die OD / ID storie is nogal n probleem. Die naaste wat ek aan die regte seels kom kom was as volg:

ID 95 OD 115 - die OD is 9-10 mm te groot.
ID 84 OD 106 - hier is die od perfek maar die id is 12mm te klein - dis flippen baie!!!

Ek het 4 seels met die regte id maar verkeerde od gekoop - Frans het gister op sy draaibank probeer om die seels kleiner te sny sodat ons net die id gedeelte kan gebruik - hopeless - ons het al vier seels in die proses opgeneuk. My seel het slegs n klein gaatjie in hom - gedink as ons ander seel bo-oor kan sit of so iets sal dit werk. Frans se hy weet nie wat se metaal in die seels is nie - maar die bytels wil die goed net nie behoorlik sny nie. Wel ons het probeer.

Die ding het so baie olie gepis oom Mac ek weet nie of ek daai kans moet waag nie - Bosch Auto Services wat my dienste doen se eienaar het my ook nie aangeraai om dit te probeer nie. All in all gaan ons so +-4000km doen - dis bietjie ver om te ry met so n lekkende olie seel en elke 500 of wat kilo's te moet op top.

Maar ja ek soek nog steeds en gaan nie nou al tou opgooi nie - ek ry eerder n dag of 2 later as glad gheel en al nie. Maar dinge lyk nie goed op die oomblik nie. Ek het n post op die Aussie forum ook gaan maak - miskien is daar ook iemand wat my kan help met die regte part nommer vir die blessit se seel.

Ek gaan nou gou na oom se links kyk.

Groete

[Pieter du Toit]

Hi All

Just an update on my situation.

I found the right genuine Nissan seal for my car in New Zealand - and it is coming down with friends of family who will be landing in Cape Town Thursday afternoon at 16h20 -

That means that Friday the workshop can finish my car and by Friday night I will be able to leave on my holiday - effectively only losing 1day on my holiday. That's not bad considering the dilemma I had on my hands for this time of the year.

Anycase - for those who want to need to know I can give the following information:

My vehicle's crank size is 96mm - the Nissan part number for that is 12279-51N02. This is the factory turbo'ed diesel model. These engines were used in Patrol Safari's in overseas country's from 1997 - 2002 but never came to SA.

Nissan part number 12279-43G02 is the same as 12279-06J00 12279-06J01 - this is only the rubber seal itself and would require youto use your old housing. It measures 84mm.

The other one that I got from Dubai measures 84mm (inside diameter of the seal or your crank size) - for the N/A diesels without the turbo in models 1997 to date. The Nissan part number there is 12279-06J00 or 12279-06J01 - these two seals are interchangable and confirmed by Nissan in Australia. Anyone needing a new rear main genuine Nissan seal I have got one that I could sell.

The other option is there is a place in Centurion that actually makes up oil seals to client spesifications - even if it is only a once off. My brother in law discovered the place on the net and he spoke to the owner this morning - who was more than willing to assist me but on the 04th Jan 2011 as he is on leave down in CT already. I will get the details of the company from my brother in law and inform everybody - because to my knowledge they are the only company that make up OIL SEALS - the rest like Bearing Man, SFK, All Seal, S.A. Sealing systems, Zoues Seals and there is a million more all only do HYDRAULIC SEALS!! This is the only company in SA that we could come across that actually makes up oil seals by customer's spesifications even if it is a once off.

So tonight I will have a good night's sleep for the first time since last week Monday since the oil leak was discovered - this was an extremel stressfull week and a half.

So yes guys and girls - I am off on holiday and will pop in from time to time .

I just wish to express my sincere thanks once again to Gerrit for posting the different part numbers - without those I would not even have known where to start looking!! Thanks Gerrit

[Gerrit Loubser]

Pieter, dit is fantastiese nuus! Jou gevoel oor watter onderdeelnommer dit moes wees was dus in die kol.

Hou lekker vakansie. Na wat jy hierdie jaar alles meegemaak het met jou Patrollie verdien jy dit.

[KOOS BEST]

Bon voyage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en mag die VOORSPOED jou verveel op die vakansie.

[Stefan]

Bly om te hoor!
Geniet jou vakansie.