What tyre and tyre rotation

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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Kagiso II » 18 Jan 2018 15:37

Muds are overrated. A/T does a fine job. I have driven all my other vehicles [prior to iNyathi] except the Prado; on A/T tires.
Most of them were Bridgestone Duellers. Never a problem, I drove the same mud and rocks and stones and sand as teh rest of the Club and Patrol group - Kaokoveld with the Hard body [Boezman] on the Duellers, including Van Zyls Pass [towing an Oryx Caravan]
I now have the latest Genaral Grabber M/T "X3" on iNyathi. First trip and a hole in the sidewall ..
Would I buy M/T again? NO .. I will go back to All Terrains. Better roadholding. As good as M/T offraod [I seldom if ever drive mud [like Hunters Road] and even Hunters Road I did with BRUTUS on 265/75/16 Dueller A/T's

Rotation? It becomes personal choice.
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by pgreeff » 18 Jan 2018 15:53

I came to the realisation that I bought the Patrol because I followed my heart, not because I am a sensible person. I'm a child with money. The logical conclusion is that I have to get MT.
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Tinus lotz » 18 Jan 2018 16:13

Kagiso II wrote:
18 Jan 2018 15:37
Muds are overrated. A/T does a fine job. I have driven all my other vehicles [prior to iNyathi] except the Prado; on A/T tires.
Most of them were Bridgestone Duellers. Never a problem, I drove the same mud and rocks and stones and sand as teh rest of the Club and Patrol group - Kaokoveld with the Hard body [Boezman] on the Duellers, including Van Zyls Pass [towing an Oryx Caravan]
I now have the latest Genaral Grabber M/T "X3" on iNyathi. First trip and a hole in the sidewall ..
Would I buy M/T again? NO .. I will go back to All Terrains. Better roadholding. As good as M/T offraod [I seldom if ever drive mud [like Hunters Road] and even Hunters Road I did with BRUTUS on 265/75/16 Dueller A/T's

Rotation? It becomes personal choice.
Oom mac....moenie jou age weg gee nie mense wat jol met karre soek muddies.....AT bande veral daai is vir die manne wat vir die ander span bat :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by hugejp » 18 Jan 2018 16:31

Tinus lotz wrote:
18 Jan 2018 16:13
Kagiso II wrote:
18 Jan 2018 15:37
Muds are overrated. A/T does a fine job. I have driven all my other vehicles [prior to iNyathi] except the Prado; on A/T tires.
Most of them were Bridgestone Duellers. Never a problem, I drove the same mud and rocks and stones and sand as teh rest of the Club and Patrol group - Kaokoveld with the Hard body [Boezman] on the Duellers, including Van Zyls Pass [towing an Oryx Caravan]
I now have the latest Genaral Grabber M/T "X3" on iNyathi. First trip and a hole in the sidewall ..
Would I buy M/T again? NO .. I will go back to All Terrains. Better roadholding. As good as M/T offraod [I seldom if ever drive mud [like Hunters Road] and even Hunters Road I did with BRUTUS on 265/75/16 Dueller A/T's

Rotation? It becomes personal choice.
Oom mac....moenie jou age weg gee nie mense wat jol met karre soek muddies.....AT bande veral daai is vir die manne wat vir die ander span bat :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Grant » 18 Jan 2018 16:53

MT's overrated - How much mud is there in SA ???- rather opt for AT's. Safety priority and you can hear each other.
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Michael » 18 Jan 2018 21:01

I would dare to say MT are better in sand and on gravel than AT and would love to be proven otherwise :biggrin:
Obviously AT is better on wet and dry tar an softer on the ears.
I think on rock it will be quite even.
MT looks WAY cooler than AT and really to be honest its an offroad vehicle.....who cares about road noise :lol:
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by SJC » 18 Jan 2018 21:16

Ek sit eerder muds op vir daai een of twee keer wat mens miskien sal vassit in modder met n at. (seker maar selfde logika hoekom mens n spaar wiel saam ry, of n brandblisser het, of n vuurwapen dra)...

Het al modder paadjies hier by ons gaan toets. (reen soms baie hiers), een patrol met at (st max) ander met muds (dunlop mt2) - 'n at kan maar net nie in selfde modder as n mt ry nie. :oldtimer:
(Maar indien mens nou in n droe woestyn omgewing woonagtig is, of op die hoof paaie bly, of altyd n mater byderhand het om mens te recover, is dit seker nie so belangrik nie....) :mytwocents:

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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Kagiso II » 18 Jan 2018 21:52

Ons het Julie 2017 saam met McCarthy 4x4 klub Botswana getoer. Ek het hulle die Silinda Spillway gaan wys en ons is deur BAIE water en modder
Ek het ORAL gery met die Genaeral Grabber All Terrain bande [ek het die muds eers in Des opgesit]
Michael se mening dat MT beter is in sand is nie so nie.. Hoe MEER rubber jy het wat vastrap hoe beter vaar jy in sand en hoe minder rolweerstand en ander faktore ook. Geniet die prentjies [Kiekies :biggrin: ]
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Peter Connan » 19 Jan 2018 05:46

Kagiso II wrote:
18 Jan 2018 21:52
Hoe MEER rubber jy het wat vastrap hoe beter vaar jy in sand
Stem nie saam nie.

1) Hoe meer rubber die pad raak, hoe minder druk is daar omdat die gewig van die voertuig oor 'n groter area versprei word. Die twee kanseleer mekaar presies uit.
2) In sand gaan jy in elk geval wegsak tot die hele oppervlak van die band aan die sand raak, en dit kanseleer ook presies uit mits die bande die selfde grote is en die druk so gestel is om dieselfde hoeveelheid loopvlak op die pad te he.

Daar is wel ander faktore wat 'n rol speel. Muddies se blokke is geneig om persentasie gewys hoer te wees in vergelyking met hulle wydte, en dus beweeg die blokke meer rond.

Dit is die beweging wat van die modder ontslae raak, en ook maak dat jy minder traksie op teerpaaie het. Dan is daar ook die hardheid van die rubber en die konstruksie van die band wat 'n rol speel.
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Re: What tyre and tyre rotation

Post by Tinus lotz » 19 Jan 2018 07:41

Na Piet se tegniese punt sal amal met muds moet rol....muds is cool :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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