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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby SJC » 19 Aug 2017 15:01

The liquid gold is about R175 per 5l.
I wanted to change oil and filters tomorrow, but only managed to get one 5l delo 400 mgx. So will have to wait till next week to get another 5l... :thumbdown:
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Kagiso II » 20 Aug 2017 13:12

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As you mya know I was through Botswana recent with James' 4.5 petrol Patrol.
It was guzzling oil [almost 4 liters Cape Town to Ghanzi] In Ghanzi the workshop [Donovan] filld it with Shell Diesel oil .. and it has not used even a half pint since then .. all the way through Moremi and Savuti and Linyanti and Chobe and down via Nata / Fannytown to home in Benoni.
Ben Aasvoël reckons it is the valve stem seals old & tired and the Diesel oil "fixed" that
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Rhett » 20 Aug 2017 14:37

That's interesting Oom Mac, do you know specifically what grade?

Do you think that going with a thicker viscosity oil for a Petrol would have done similar?
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Kagiso II » 20 Aug 2017 17:31

Rhett wrote:That's interesting Oom Mac, do you know specifically what grade?

Do you think that going with a thicker viscosity oil for a Petrol would have done similar?


Hi Rhett: It was a 10/W 40 .. SHELL, it comes in a blue 5L container [not Rumula which we used in the day to sort VG 30 engines from smoking and using oil ((MUCH MUCH cheaper than an overhaul :clap: :oldtimer: ))]
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby SJC » 20 Aug 2017 20:14

Moet sê, my 4.5 gebruik ook bietie olie. (het tans Shell Helix HX7 in).
My td42 aan die anderkant gebruik niks olie nie... ruil olie elke 5k km (delo 400), nooit nodig om olie by te sit nie. :thumbup:
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Peter Connan » 21 Aug 2017 05:42

Funny you should mention this...

My 4.5 uses a bit of oil on long trips. It uses basically nothing in town, but on longer trips, it sometimes uses about 500ml on a tank. Only sometimes though. I think it's got to do with temperature, as it never gets properly warm in town (I actually think I need to get a warmer thermostat). Also keep in mind, a tank is 200l.

But the last time I serviced, the only Helix my local spares shop had was the Diesel version. I took it anyway, as I thought that a bit of extra cleaning couldn't do any harm (my understanding is that the difference between the Diesel oils and the Petrol oils is a bit of extra detergents in the Diesel oils).

Anyway, on my last trip to the Northern Cape and southern Namibia, it used basically nothing.
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Rhett » 21 Aug 2017 08:19

Peter Connan wrote:Funny you should mention this...

My 4.5 uses a bit of oil on long trips. It uses basically nothing in town, but on longer trips, it sometimes uses about 500ml on a tank. Only sometimes though. I think it's got to do with temperature, as it never gets properly warm in town (I actually think I need to get a warmer thermostat). Also keep in mind, a tank is 200l.

But the last time I serviced, the only Helix my local spares shop had was the Diesel version. I took it anyway, as I thought that a bit of extra cleaning couldn't do any harm (my understanding is that the difference between the Diesel oils and the Petrol oils is a bit of extra detergents in the Diesel oils).

Anyway, on my last trip to the Northern Cape and southern Namibia, it used basically nothing.


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Ok I have to service the cars this weekend, and will do a bit more research during the week. Neither the Patrol nor my Golfy use any oil, but the oil pressure light does buzz every now and then on the golf. I think it's time I cleaned the oil pump, but maybe a thicker oil will help
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby Tinus lotz » 21 Aug 2017 18:40

Rett pull the sump and clean the strainer on the golf .....castrol gtx was great in a 1400 but made big sluge in a vw that ran very hot ....in my younger days we raced them :thumbup:
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby SJC » 21 Aug 2017 18:53

Tinus lotz wrote:I think clean oil is the key here ..the midas might not be the no1 but works pretty good looking at the km that your getting ..nice to get some proper figures. ... :salute: my 4.2 loves the dello 400 and we getting it for 280 a 5l now


Het Saterdag delo 400 by midas in Malelane gekoop vir R280. (skool sport uitstappie gewees :rolleyes: )
Hulle het net een 5l gehad, Makro in Nelspruit het altyd delo 400 ge-"stock" maar lykmy nie meer nie.. in elk geval, het vandag 5l delo 400 by midas in Sabie gekoop: R302 vir 5 liter.. :surprised: :redface:
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Re: Modern engin oil

Postby SJC » 07 Sep 2017 14:51

Kagiso II wrote:On the side:
As you mya know I was through Botswana recent with James' 4.5 petrol Patrol.
It was guzzling oil [almost 4 liters Cape Town to Ghanzi] In Ghanzi the workshop [Donovan] filld it with Shell Diesel oil .. and it has not used even a half pint since then .. all the way through Moremi and Savuti and Linyanti and Chobe and down via Nata / Fannytown to home in Benoni.
Ben Aasvoël reckons it is the valve stem seals old & tired and the Diesel oil "fixed" that

Peter Connan wrote:Funny you should mention this...

My 4.5 uses a bit of oil on long trips. It uses basically nothing in town, but on longer trips, it sometimes uses about 500ml on a tank. Only sometimes though. I think it's got to do with temperature, as it never gets properly warm in town (I actually think I need to get a warmer thermostat). Also keep in mind, a tank is 200l.

But the last time I serviced, the only Helix my local spares shop had was the Diesel version. I took it anyway, as I thought that a bit of extra cleaning couldn't do any harm (my understanding is that the difference between the Diesel oils and the Petrol oils is a bit of extra detergents in the Diesel oils).

Anyway, on my last trip to the Northern Cape and southern Namibia, it used basically nothing.


Blykbaar as mens eers vol sinteties gebruik, word dit nie aangeraai om na multigrade terug te gaan nie. Is dit so? :think:
Kry mens vol sintetiese "diesel olie"?
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