2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

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2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by DMH » 04 Jun 2017 18:03

Hi Chaps

This may be of interest!
https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bakkie ... 1187319109

What are your thoughts on the price?

I may very well be interested in such oneday - anyone done a Lexus conversion on one? Or just better putting in a 4.8? Especially for resale perhaps (best is just another ZD30)

How would a TD42 do in it?

He's in Alberton - called him yesterday - he's had it since 2010 - grenaded on him 2 years ago - was getting the engine sorted and ended up losing parts, etc and has since bought a bakkie so getting rid of it. Mileage surprisingly low!

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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by Peter Connan » 04 Jun 2017 18:45

4.8's are insanely expensive.

The TD42 is an easy fit, but also an expensive engine. Especially if properly turbo'd.

Alex Roux has a Lexus'd 3l TDI, and he likes it. I think for sand, it's good, but I don't think it's ideal for a rock-crawler. It seems a bit low on bottom-end, and the accelerator is possibly a bit sensitive. On the other hand, I am sure it's better at rock-crawling than the original engine.

It is of course also possible to fit one of the older American V8's...
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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by Alex Roux » 04 Jun 2017 18:58

DMH wrote:Hi Chaps

This may be of interest!
https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bakkie ... 1187319109

What are your thoughts on the price?

I may very well be interested in such oneday - anyone done a Lexus conversion on one? Or just better putting in a 4.8? Especially for resale perhaps (best is just another ZD30)

How would a TD42 do in it?

He's in Alberton - called him yesterday - he's had it since 2010 - grenaded on him 2 years ago - was getting the engine sorted and ended up losing parts, etc and has since bought a bakkie so getting rid of it. Mileage surprisingly low!
Hi Tejan

For that price, I assume the ZD30 engine is not working at the moment. I would still negotiate him down to 50k
As I understand the TD42 would do nicely in there.
No bellhousing necessary, gear ratios are fine and relatively simple conversion (I speak for others, as I am light years away from doing this myself!)

The 4.8 conversion is probably the most complex, in terms of wiring, and not a cheap engine, or easily found. You will essentially need a donor car (one that has been written off from the rear, rather than side of front). This is because you will need to figure out which 40 of the 200 wires coming out of the ECU you need to reconnect - this is assuming the 3 liter diesel was manual (which for a 2005 model it most likely was).

I have a Lexus in my GU. No issues with it, but it is an expensive conversion, if you want it done properly (don't be fooled by the low price of the engine itself).
For every good Lexus conversion there are 10 bad ones. But that is not the engine's fault. It is because people try to cut corners in the operation.

If this was my project, given that I already have both a Lexus and a 4.8 conversion, would be the TD42.
But right now I am rather conversion fatigued!
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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by Wilkie » 04 Jun 2017 21:06

Alex I second you all the way
There are more to just installing another motor to it and people musn't be fooled to think even a 4.2 DT is a simple conversion
There is a difference between propshaft length of a 3.0l manual a auto and a manual with the dual action flywheel....
some have spacers on the starter brackets and some don't
4 cyl cluster to a 6 cyl cluster
Power steering pipes
aircon pipes
radiator hoses and cowlings ..etc etc etc
Trust me ...the lists go on and on.....I have burnt many a hours
So my advice to anybody that wants to buy a Patrol.......don't think you getting a bargain if its not in a good original running condition... :naughty: :oldtimer:

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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by offroadbiker » 05 Jun 2017 06:50

That price is way to high..........
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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by Michael » 05 Jun 2017 07:08

Mmmmmm I would really not mind having this one in my yard, but as many have experienced before it is not a project to be taken up lightly!

Even for me having a spare TD42 engine available to stick in, it is a big job and will not be cheap!

I also think R65k too much, the car only has a suspension and front bumper for extras.
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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by SJC » 05 Jun 2017 07:58

What would be a fare price for this, R50k?

Michael, how much would it cost to build a td42 into this? With turbo & intercooler included? Close to R100k?

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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by DMH » 05 Jun 2017 08:29

Aah thanks for the insights chaps!

Something to consider waaaayyyyyy in the future!

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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by Michael » 05 Jun 2017 08:30

SJC wrote:What would be a fare price for this, R50k?

Michael, how much would it cost to build a td42 into this? With turbo & intercooler included? Close to R100k?
To be safe I think 100k would cover everything
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Re: 2005 Patrol 3.0D (ex) R65000

Post by offroadbiker » 05 Jun 2017 08:47

So that would be 100k for the conversion plus whatever the vehicle goes for.... there goes my GU 4.2TD dreams :redface:
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