Tyre prices

SJC
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 2774
Joined: 23 Nov 2014 14:20
Full Name: Fanus
Nickname: Fanus
Home Town: Sabie
Current 4x4: none
Home Language: Afrikaans/English
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 117 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by SJC » 18 Aug 2016 14:40

Mini Patrol wrote: Now the 265's are R 400 per tyre cheaper than the 285's so that could be another R 2 400 saving.

....

Errol - Which tyres did you say had incredible grip? Hankook's ?
Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
(You however dont get this size for stt pro, only st maxx..)

Errol got general grabbers on his patrol. (I think).

User avatar
Tinus lotz
Moderator
Posts: 7070
Joined: 29 Aug 2010 13:07
Full Name: Tinus lotz
Nickname: Tinus lotz
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Nissan patrol 4.8 GRX 2005

Toyota 2.7 legend 35 LWB 4X4
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 564 times
Been thanked: 294 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by Tinus lotz » 18 Aug 2016 14:57

Mini Patrol wrote:
Tinus lotz wrote:
Mini Patrol wrote:The Rand has strengthened by 20% which should make a difference of R 900 per tyre on a R 4 500 MT. Buying a set of 6 would equate to a R 5 400 saving.

Somehow I don't think this will happen but we can hope and even if they only drop by 10% it equates to R 2 700.[/quote
Jip i can fill my bakkie for that :blonde:
Fill your bakkie with what? :rolling:
2300 when its empty 185l of diesel :oldtimer:

Wilkie
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1480
Joined: 24 Feb 2014 15:33
Full Name: Errol Wilken
Nickname: Wilkie
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: 1999 4.5 GRX Nissan Patrol
2004 BMW 3.0D X5
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 92 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by Wilkie » 18 Aug 2016 15:00

Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road

User avatar
ricster
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 5954
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 11:16
Full Name: Cedric Warner
Nickname: Cedric
Home Town: Alberton Gauteng
Current 4x4: '99 Nissan Patrol 4.2 Turbo Diesel
Home Language: English
Location: LA..... No not Los Angles ..... Lower Alberton, Gauteng
Has thanked: 255 times
Been thanked: 255 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by ricster » 18 Aug 2016 15:22

A Patrol with 16" rims needs 33" tyres, and apparently General Grabbers don't make 33"

What i am looking at is also got to be good on my wallet. and the Kumho's still are reasonable !!!

I am looking in particular at the Kumho AT51 AT's at the moment

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/tyres-wh ... 51-311026/

or maybe these.... money dependent

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/tyres-wh ... 51-290466/

SJC, bud I must disagree with you ....
quote " Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
"

You cannot have enough rubber on the road. The smaller the tyre the less rubber you have on the tar... less rubber on the tar with a heavy vehicle means your more likely to break traction before a wider tyre. When I want to stop my 3ton Iron Maiden, I want it to stop immediately, and therefore the softer rubber compounds and a bigger footprint on the tar is going to ensure that I do stop as quickly as possible. On soft sand soft ( deflated ) wide tyres are brilliant.... I know from experience with my diesel at Atlantis dunes in the Cape. Skinny tyres would have made me sit for a long time going nowhere slowly. The Patrols ( station wagon ) if I am not mistaken come out with a 31" tyre. A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift. combine that with a 2"lift and you have a 3" lift which is pretty much perfect for the Patrol. Not to mention how much better they work on 4x4 tracks and trails

And my wife says bigger is better too......hahaha, but that's a different kind of burnin' rubber
Regards
Cedric
Nissan Patrol GL 4.2 Diesel Turbo (Iron Maiden)
Nissan SANI 3.0 V6 4x4 (SOLD)
Isuzu KB 280 DT 2x4 ('ol Smokey) - SOLD
Suzuki TL 1000R "V twin" (Growler) - SOLD

SJC
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 2774
Joined: 23 Nov 2014 14:20
Full Name: Fanus
Nickname: Fanus
Home Town: Sabie
Current 4x4: none
Home Language: Afrikaans/English
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 117 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by SJC » 18 Aug 2016 16:44

ricster wrote:A

SJC, bud I must disagree with you ....
quote " Thats why I fitted 255/85r16's. The Dunlops i fitted, were R1k cheaper per tyre than the 285's (but same height).
To me the height is more important than the width, but that is just my personal preference...It seems that a lot of people prefer wider tyres...
"

You cannot have enough rubber on the road. The smaller the tyre the less rubber you have on the tar... less rubber on the tar with a heavy vehicle means your more likely to break traction before a wider tyre. When I want to stop my 3ton Iron Maiden, I want it to stop immediately, and therefore the softer rubber compounds and a bigger footprint on the tar is going to ensure that I do stop as quickly as possible. On soft sand soft ( deflated ) wide tyres are brilliant.... I know from experience with my diesel at Atlantis dunes in the Cape. Skinny tyres would have made me sit for a long time going nowhere slowly. The Patrols ( station wagon ) if I am not mistaken come out with a 31" tyre. A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift. combine that with a 2"lift and you have a 3" lift which is pretty much perfect for the Patrol. Not to mention how much better they work on 4x4 tracks and trails
The patrol pickup came out standard with 235/85r16, a 32" tyre. (not sure about the new model).
I am not sure what 31" size tyres patrol wagons use to come out,maybe 265/70r16? (I actually thought it came out with 32").

Anyway, 255/85r16 got a bigger footprint than both these mentioned sizes.
And when deflating a tyre for offroad use, the length of the track is more important than the width..

More rubber on tar will be better for braking, stopping etc, but marginally. Unless we are comparing 7.5 split rims to 12.5" wide tyres.. Not much difference between 255 vs 265 vs 285 :lol:

"A 33" tyre automatically gives you a 1" lift." - which is why I say height is more important than width. :thumbup:

There is a misconception that wider is better, but this is not always true: https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertisse ... p-in-sand/

And here: http://www.expeditionswest.com/research ... _rev1.html

Just saying that if I had to choose between a 265/75 vs 255/85, I would take the taller 255/85 (33").
Which I did ....twice. But that is just me.

User avatar
David M
Patrolman
Patrolman
Posts: 847
Joined: 12 Nov 2013 15:13
Full Name: David Marais
Nickname: David Marais
Home Town: Midrand
Current 4x4: 1998 4.5 GL Patrol
2006 4.2 Td Bakkie (SWAMBO's) - The "Firetruck"
Home Language: English
Location: Midrand
Has thanked: 19 times
Been thanked: 84 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by David M » 19 Aug 2016 05:56

Wilkie wrote:Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road
Errol - MT's or AT's?
There are still places out there!!!! - Daniel Goz - The "Tapam" movie

Wilkie
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 1480
Joined: 24 Feb 2014 15:33
Full Name: Errol Wilken
Nickname: Wilkie
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: 1999 4.5 GRX Nissan Patrol
2004 BMW 3.0D X5
Home Language: Afrikaans
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 92 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by Wilkie » 19 Aug 2016 06:40

Mini Patrol wrote:
Wilkie wrote:Yipp I got General Grabbers and they cost around R1800.00 a tyre,,i'm really impressed with the traction and no tyre noise on tar road
Errol - MT's or AT's?
A/T

Picasso
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 309
Joined: 27 Jul 2014 15:56
Full Name: HS
Nickname: Picasso
Home Town: Pretoria
Current 4x4: Nissan Patrol
T3 Syncro
Home Language: German
Has thanked: 11 times
Been thanked: 43 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by Picasso » 19 Aug 2016 07:38

I can concur with Errol.
Have the General Graber on two vehicles and the performance , grip and noiseless is very good combined with affordable price. :thumbup:

User avatar
ricster
Patrolman 1000+
Patrolman 1000+
Posts: 5954
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 11:16
Full Name: Cedric Warner
Nickname: Cedric
Home Town: Alberton Gauteng
Current 4x4: '99 Nissan Patrol 4.2 Turbo Diesel
Home Language: English
Location: LA..... No not Los Angles ..... Lower Alberton, Gauteng
Has thanked: 255 times
Been thanked: 255 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by ricster » 19 Aug 2016 08:08

But are those 285's or 265's ??
Regards
Cedric
Nissan Patrol GL 4.2 Diesel Turbo (Iron Maiden)
Nissan SANI 3.0 V6 4x4 (SOLD)
Isuzu KB 280 DT 2x4 ('ol Smokey) - SOLD
Suzuki TL 1000R "V twin" (Growler) - SOLD

mattk
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 61
Joined: 14 Mar 2016 16:09
Full Name: mattk
Nickname: mattk
Home Town: Centurion
Current 4x4: Patrol 4.8
Home Language: English
Been thanked: 2 times

Re: Tyre prices

Post by mattk » 19 Aug 2016 08:15

I find it odd that they do not seem to manufacture/sell for the 17" size. So far still very happy with the BFG M/T KM2.

Post Reply

Return to “14. Rims & Tyres”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests