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Post by Hermansmpangola » 13 Jun 2016 11:50

Hi Guys

I can buy a 2001 Nissan Patrol Gu Diesel Auto but the engine is blown so i made some calls and some mechanics suggested that i replace the engine with a Nissan Hardbody 3.0 Diesel . Does anybody have some advise please ?

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Post by Alex Roux » 13 Jun 2016 13:58

Was the Hardbody a 4x4 model?
I am just thinking of the ECU settings on the 4x4 Hardbodies may be more suitable if you want to drive in 4L with the transplanted Patrol.

It can be done. Thabbies (Deon) has a short wheel base Patrol with a Hardbody 3litre diesel in. But that is a much lighter vehicle than the Patrol station wagon.

Personally if I was to stick with diesel (and only IF), I would rather opt for a 4.2 - Less stressed in my view means longer life.
But its a personal choice, whether you are content with a small box engine with higher pressure injectors, in a heavier vehicle such as the Patrol (heavier than the Hardbody at least).
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Post by Pieter B » 13 Jun 2016 18:24

City Deep motor spares in JHB sit met 4 4.2 TDI Patrol's (ex Escom bakkies). Bel hulle miskien en hoor wat sal hulle jou vra vir 'n enjin.

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Post by Tinus lotz » 13 Jun 2016 18:40

Hulle wil 60k he

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Post by Alex Roux » 13 Jun 2016 19:50

Tinus lotz wrote:Hulle wil 60k he
Dit is seker darem vir die hele bakkie?
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Post by Hermansmpangola » 13 Jun 2016 19:55

Ek gaan hul môre bel om meer uitevind dink ook dit is dan beter om die 4.2 engine intesit .

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Post by Tinus lotz » 14 Jun 2016 06:33

Daar is n Dean man wat daar werk hy wil dik geld vir sy spares hê sal vanoggend weer bel en hoor :thumbup:

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Post by Tinus lotz » 14 Jun 2016 08:02

Ok spoke to dean of 45k for motor and what you need like aircleaner ect :thumbup:

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Re: Advise/Raad

Post by ricster » 14 Jun 2016 09:04

Just bear in mind that you have an auto box, so you would need to do a gearbox swap too. I don't think a 4.2 will do well on an auto box. EGTs will play a major roll in the limitations, and then there is the electronics.....

I stand corrected but I believe the TD42Ti motors that came in the 4.2 Patrol pickup has an ECU and EGR, so is a fair bit different to the TD42's that we have in our station wagons or like the TD42's in the old TD42 pickups like Tinus's

However having said that, the 3.0 auto box may just be able to talk to the TD42Ti ECU..... you will need to do research.

Bear in mind too that the fuel consumption on the 3.0 motor is way better than on a 4.2. Powerwise the 3.0 will have more than enough grunt and power to push the Patrol around quite comfortably, probably better than the 4.2 will do in a few instances. To get the 4.2 to be comparable to the 3.0, you will need to spend a bit of extra money for sure..... you will have to weigh up the wants vs needs scale.

I think the rebuild ( properly done ) may just work out cheaper than the transplant labour and cost of changing to the TD42. and the fact that you will need to open that TD42 to ensure all is well in there... and replace bearings and rings etc while you are at it......
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Re: Advise/Raad

Post by Alex Roux » 14 Jun 2016 10:04

ricster wrote:I think the rebuild ( properly done ) may just work out cheaper than the transplant labour and cost of changing to the TD42. and the fact that you will need to open that TD42 to ensure all is well in there... and replace bearings and rings etc while you are at it......
Herman,

Do you have a confirmed conclusion on the incumbent 3litre engine?
I.e. is it fixable, or complete write off?
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