Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

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Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

Post by Chris Skinner » 07 Aug 2011 15:31

One thing I find irritating is that when I turn the engine off, I then can not close the windows without going back to IGN position, and this kicks in all the electrics unnecessarily. I have been thinking of ways to modify the system so that I can operate to windows with the key in the ACC2 position, but not in the completely off position (for obvious safety and security reasons).
After wasting time digging in behind the door panel and the switch unit, which is an intricate printed circuit, I had to use the grey matter once again. :think:
I did not want to dig into the wiring too much, let alone cut wires etc.
During my fiddling about I noticed that the mirror adjustment switch works with the key in ACC2 position – so I knew where to get power from. :oldtimer:
The fuse box seemed like the obvious place to start. I located the window fuse (position #8), and the mirror operation fuse in position #23. All I needed to block the power from the live part of fuse #8, and bring in power from fuse #23. I used a ‘blown’ fuse in #8 position and took power from the downstream side of fuse #23 (so the windows are protected by the 7.5 amp mirror fuse), and into the downstream side of the #23 fuse.
The piggy-back is achieved by some ‘elegant’ soldering onto the back of the fuses, and insulating again using a glue-gun.
The piggy-back looks a bit agricultural, but it works 100%. The beauty is that the modification is fully reversible in 10 seconds by changing back to 2 new fuses in #8 and #23. :clap:
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The Piggy Back from fuse #23 to #8
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Re: Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

Post by Tinus lotz » 07 Aug 2011 21:50

Mooi plan ! :salute:

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Post by cullendw » 08 Aug 2011 17:51

Haha, you should patent that!
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Post by Mammoth » 12 Aug 2011 17:24

Hi Chris

You clever you! This is my Saturday project! Thanks.
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Re: Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

Post by Carel » 28 Aug 2013 11:55

Hi Chris
Ek het vandat ek my Patrol 'n jaar gelede gekoop het gewonder oor hoe gaan ek hierdie problem met die vensters oplos en hier het jy die antwoord. Net een ding, volgens die foto is #8 fuse die "blown fuse" en jy het die draad aan die regterkant (downstream kant). # 23 is die werkende fuse en hier het jy die draad aan die linkerkant, maar is dit nie die "upstream" kant nie? indien wel werk jou vensters nie deur 'n fuse nie.
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Post by ricster » 28 Aug 2013 13:01

What a flipping brilliant idea..... my only worry is the electrical safety.... I don't want a hot patrol like Wimpie's that turned into a big braai. So will watch this one carefully to see the comments.

Hmmmm.... maybe adding an inline fuse between on the connecting wire??
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Re: Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

Post by Carel » 28 Aug 2013 18:54

Well I am a bit confused about this one but have just checked it and on fuse #8 the current comes in on the left, goes through the fuse and exits on the right whereas on fuse #23 it is the opposite, right in left out. So it is correct to draw the current from the left on fuse #23 and take it to the right of #8 as Chris did. I have changed mine as well so SWAMBO will be more than happy next time I stop, switch off the engine and she can open or close the window as she likes to take photos.
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Post by Chris Skinner » 28 Aug 2013 20:56

Its now two years and going strong!
The windows are fused through the mirror fuse, so should not be a problem

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Post by tour de frans » 29 Sep 2013 10:36

Ek het myne ook gemod. Ek het nie die jump draadjie gebruik nie. Ek het die fusebox uit gebou en agter die box die konneksies opgetel.
Myne werk so bietjie anders: ek het n "paperthin switch" op die dash langs die stuur colom gefit. Jy moet hom druk en hou. Dan kom die krag aan om die ruite te werk. Die sleutel moet egter op ACC wees. As die sleutel af of uit is dan werk niks nie.
So as ek in die kar sit en radio luister en moet die ruite werk, dan druk ek of my vrou vanaf die passasier sitplek die skakelaar en werk die ruite. :mytwocents:
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Re: Electric Windows - Operate with IGN off

Post by Kagiso II » 29 Sep 2013 13:57

ek het weer n spook gejaag wat hy kan werk soos die Opel Astra en party anner plat karre -- as jy die ruite oop lops en wegstap en sien hulle is oop - dan hou jy die remote se sluitknoppie in en na sekonde of wat maak dai ruite toe -- sonder sleuetl of niks naby nie.. Ek soek daai fiunksie oppi Tyotta [LOBO ?? maklik - draai n slinger al in die rondte dan maak hulle oop of toe -- selfs as die battery uit is :-) :woo: :oldtimer: :oldtimer:
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