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Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Johann 1984 » 14 Feb 2015 19:07

Hi Gentlemen,

A honest question: I have been invited by some blokes to patrake in driving the Kungwini 4x4 trail. I have been dying to really test the troll, so I'm keen to go. I do, however, have reservations about aimlessly damaging a vehicle without need. So, my question to the big guys are: can this course be driven in a standard vehicle (run-boards removed) without sustaining injury to the vehicle? This is my second 4x4 vehicle and I have driven most courses prior. I have never driven kungwini before, however.

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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Alex Roux » 14 Feb 2015 19:37

I have been to Kungwini once before. Will go again this year.
It is really not a terror trail by any stretch of the imagination.
I would not hesitate to take a standard Patrol there.

There are rocky areas outside the main training track that may damage your vehicle, but you can decide what you want to do, when you are there, before you do it.

I would not personally take off the running boards. They may not give you the protection of that rock sliders would, but damage to the side of the underbelly can be unrepearable. So I would much rather replace the running boards if damage was to occur.
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Post by Pieter B » 15 Feb 2015 11:31

Remember to take recovery gear with. Your friends might need you to recover them when they get stuck. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Tinus lotz » 15 Feb 2015 12:27

Jip that trail is ok for a standard patrol in 2h ...lol not very challenging at all nice sand areas but i will rate it 2 out of 5

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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Kagiso II » 15 Feb 2015 14:18

KUNGWINI had some serious rain damage a while back -- Thabies Louw and I represented the NISSAN club with some Landrammel drivers to go and fix the Extreme section .. Opsticles 3 to 8 were damaged most -- but we made them all drivable ..
Go and ENJOY Kungwini -- we aim to have some of the 4x4 4 Kids events there this year ..
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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Johann 1984 » 15 Feb 2015 17:07

Hey All,
Kungwini done. Did all 3 courses. We were 3 vehicles. A 3.0 D-4D Hilux, 4.2 76 LC and me. I drove all the sections and all 3 courses at Kungwini except the very last obstacle on the advanced course. The Cruiser 76 tried to go throug both lockers on but repeatedly slipped into the gutter-erosion to the drivers-side. Sustained some serious damage including the rear-wheelarch as well as rear bumper. I eventually had to pull him out with my winch. No for the evaluation of the vehicle. My previous vehicle was a Hardbody YD25 with a LSD, no locker. It had poor traction and was a very average 4x4 that required lots of momentum to get over axle twisters and slippery slopes. Today was the first time I did a 4x4 track per sé in the Troll. As crap and slow as the ZD30 engine is on tar (in the name of lesser thirst), so good it is in 4L with enormous power and torque. I was absolutely amazed at how easily it idled over the incline axle-twisters on the advanced course. Bearing in mind that the vehicle has standard suspension and highway tekkies, it outshined the 4.2 who had to rev up the engine to pass over the obstacles both lockers engaged. In my own and honest opinion, after driving both, the patrol has the upperhand ito of capabilities. The ZD 30 has great low down torque and the suspension is super flexible, enabling me to reach down thise deep holes of loose gravel at low speeds without spinning the hell out of everything. This morning I was mockingly called 'Team Nissan' and 'Glorified X-Trail'. As the day progressed, the insults quickly dissapeared. So, all in all: besides the enormous body (that struggle to fit always), I don't think there are many rivals.

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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Alex Roux » 15 Feb 2015 17:55

Johan

I know this relates to another thread but also related to this:

When I first got my Trol one of the first items on my wish list were front lockers.
Got lots of extras since then, but in five years I still do not have my front lockers.

Although I still want them, I realised over time that it is only the really very extreme stuff that will require front lockers on a Trol.
In many instances, where a Cruiser or Fortuner would need it, the Trol does not.
At our last club visit to Moegatle, there were two obstacles that I could not do and should have been able to do with front lockers. The only vehicle that could, was another Trol that did have front lockers (Thabbies).
So I have to ask myself the question, is it really worth the money, for two or three more obstacles at the more extreme trails....
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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by Tinus lotz » 15 Feb 2015 18:27

Nice one....that 76 has about the same amounts of flex than a rail road track hence the need for 2 lockers to move from a to b :lol:

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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by JoshJ » 15 Feb 2015 22:40

Johan,

Leke man :thumbup: the ZD30 is truly awsome off Road. When I get frustrated on the highways sometimes I imidiatly remind myself of its awsomeness off road. And thats enough to ease my mood. I didn't buy it for its highway prones. I dont know if you experienced the same, but mine can't drive smoothly with throttle control in 1st and 2nd gear in low range. The torque is just to much. It jurks like you cant beleave. I can only drive it smoothly in 3rd low range. But for 90% of the time I find 1st gear high range enough. And I have never needed the diff lock thus far. There is just always traction. Mine is std with 33" muds.

I've had mtshubishi's, another nissan and a toyota and they can't be compared. I guess you could say that you get 4x4's and Patrols. Or dare I make another classification and say Diesel Patrols. :lol:
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Re: Kungwini 4x4 in standard Patrol

Post by JoshJ » 15 Feb 2015 22:42

Oom Mac, as jy da was met n patrol met 33" op kon jy daai laaste een opi foto af gegaan het. Ai spyt kom altyd te laat ne :lol:
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