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Re: High lift jack

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 11:05
by Kagiso II
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Recovbery of a Santa Fe off "Van Zyls Pass" at Hennops .. And that day the Hi Lift needed a wheel buddy ..

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 15:44
by davidvdm
Eish Oom, ek onthou daai dag. Ons het goed gespook vir paar ure met daai een.

Ek gaan nou seker geskiet word, maar ek span my hilift in amper elke keer wat ek op my kar werk. Saam met trollie jack en stands kan jy enige iets lig/sak/skuif soos jy nodig het.

Ek het laas op Berakah a band verloor. Ek was derde in die ry van voor af en het wiel geruil gehad teen die tyd wat die derde voertuig agter my, my ingehaal het. Drie minute en ons is weer op die pad. Ek het wel jack punte op my rock sliders, en as jy verstaan dat jy die wiele met klippe moet blok voor en agter, en dat jy die kar net hoog genoeg lig om een wiel van die grond af te hĂȘ. Dan bly jou kar stabiel.

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:00
by Peter Connan
Unfortunately I also won't be available on the 29th,so I like Cedric's idea.

David, I am really just saying that one should not crawl under a car supported only on a hi-lift jack. Particularly something like a Patrol which is heavy and has a lot of articulation, when lifted front or rear. This is a very unstable situation, no matter how many rocks are placed against the wheels. Jacking on the rocksliders is a hell of a lot more stable.

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 27 Oct 2014 17:39
by biggles
Hi-Lift jack can be dismantled in minutes and can be hidden in the patrol. I have the "ratchet" section in my recovery kit ammo box with the foot and plate. The beam was attached to the roof rack with wing nuts (or behind the back seats now). And the pole goes on the floor.

Rusty dusty jacks are dangerous as the pins don't move freely and they wear excessively when used. I shudder everytime I see the ancient hi-lift attached to someones bumper... rather keep the business bit inside the vehicle. And slip it onto the beam when you need it.

As for correct use and safety. Just use one regularly and be used to thier functioning. Used incorrectly you can easily loose a tooth or jaw. Know your tools and take care of them. :oldtimer: :oldtimer:

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 28 Oct 2014 13:12
by davidvdm
Peter Connan wrote:Unfortunately I also won't be available on the 29th,so I like Cedric's idea.

David, I am really just saying that one should not crawl under a car supported only on a hi-lift jack. Particularly something like a Patrol which is heavy and has a lot of articulation, when lifted front or rear. This is a very unstable situation, no matter how many rocks are placed against the wheels. Jacking on the rocksliders is a hell of a lot more stable.

Agree, you just looking to commit suicide if you climb under any vehicle only being held up by a Hi-Lift. But by the same token, if a 500kg or a 2500kg hunk of metal falls on you and pins you to the ground, it's fairly much game over either way.

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 29 Oct 2014 08:38
by biggles
davidvdm wrote:
Peter Connan wrote:Unfortunately I also won't be available on the 29th,so I like Cedric's idea.

David, I am really just saying that one should not crawl under a car supported only on a hi-lift jack. Particularly something like a Patrol which is heavy and has a lot of articulation, when lifted front or rear. This is a very unstable situation, no matter how many rocks are placed against the wheels. Jacking on the rocksliders is a hell of a lot more stable.

Agree, you just looking to commit suicide if you climb under any vehicle only being held up by a Hi-Lift. But by the same token, if a 500kg or a 2500kg hunk of metal falls on you and pins you to the ground, it's fairly much game over either way.
Any jack is considered unsafe. You should not get under a vehicle unless it is supported by axle stands. Trolley jacks. Bottle jacks. Even scissor jacks to a certain extent. When using a hi-lift I always have someone stand holding the top of the jack for early warning if it starts to topple.

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 29 Oct 2014 18:05
by Peter Connan
Sure, in a perfect world.

But I for one sure as heck don't have room to drag a pair of axle stands on a long trip. And the standard jack and a wheel under the sill is a hang of a lot safer than a hi-lift jack.

Re: High lift jack

Posted: 29 Oct 2014 20:26
by Stefan
I've got one of the collapsible axle-stands (Front-runner I think) even though it is a little on the heavy side it works a treat when a wheel needs to be changed.