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For a Patrol, what length high lift jack do one buy?
Where can I go to visit in Pretoria / Gauteng and based on your experience would offer best price?

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'Aloa Herman .. Huzzit ??

Ek het myne by n KOOPerasie gekoop .. helfte van die fancy name en mooi verf van die 4x4 plekke.
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Post by ricster »

H/L jacks are very handy to have, when you need it...... but so far I have never needed one. These ( Quality ) H/L jacks are not cheep and you need a loooooooooong one for a patrol. They are cumbersome to have on you car, and could just land up being an expensive ornament for people to look at when you drive by. But this also depends on what and where you are going, and what you are going to do with your Patrol.

The std Patrol jack, in my opinion is a brilliant jack and have used it on many occasions. The H/L jack can become a very dangerous jack if used incorrectly or not maintained ( left outside to the elements )
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Post by Alex Roux »

That would be the 60" as opposed to the 48"

But here follows two important questions to which I do not have the conclusive answer yet (maybe a new thread for these):

1) High lift jacks are helluva dangerous.
Do you really need one, given much safer alternatives such as the inflatables?

2) Where to mount it. On the front (on top of bull bar) can help cause fatalities in even minor accidents
Mounting on roof rack also dangerous due to its weight, when mounting and dismounting it.


Then also do practice using it in your garden / drive way under controlled non stress scenarios.
The 60" is also more prone to the dangers of high lift jacking, it can easily slip under its base. I had that experience when I punchered my left rear tyre in February. Was a very stressed scenario
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Post by Tinus lotz »

I have 3 proper hi lift ones they all work great
Cost is about 1200 at makro. .60 inch for patrol .
Not really for changing wheels ....its for lifting car up level and putting traction under wheels . Can also work to help as winch .
Piet has a farm jack from adendorf mabe he can comment
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On the Patrol it is better to use the Wheel Buddy with the Hi-Lift jack to lift the wheel.
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Again, thanks for you valuable replies, appreciated
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Post by Kagiso II »

As mentioned .. I have a hi lift jack .. but only needed it twice in 25 years.
The car I do the Outreaches with, the Prado, has only hi lift points on front bumper .. so the hi lift is stored till LOBO comes out of hospital ..

What I do take with in the event of ??? kokko .. are the air jack and then I have a TWO TONNE Trolley Jack [that Pietpetoors converted for me when he was still a NISSAN man [before he went South and now owns & runs Hi Lix forum .. sies piet :biggrin: :biggrin: ]

I also carry planks to give the trolley a bit of hight. I fit it under the axle, near the wheel an UP she goes. On the Prado I sommer jack on that SUPER bash plate P C made for me and the Prado [Dankie weereens mnr Connan :clap: :clap: ]

It is MUCH safer than the notorious "tumbling sideways" hi lift jack. - It works baie makliker :oldtimer: - You can even work underneath the car with it on the trolley jack [and 2 tonne is enough for my use]
Then again -- while I had Boezman .. NO hi lift jack was lobg enough to lift a rear wheel of Boezman off the ground [none that I ever saw, at least] and LOBO will have similar wheel travel.
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Re: High lift jack

Post by Grant »

Only problem with a farm jack is that any of the extensions for fitting in jack points do not fit.
For a standard Patrol a 1,2 m jack would be more than enough. They are dangerous but with proper training many of the dangers can be removed.


As Cedric said, rather look at your standard patrol jack. I had mine fitted on the front bumper and drove around with it for the last 6 years and only used it once on somebody else's vehicle. Not it stands at home as a almost new art piece.

Also with the H/L jack spare can be bought at 4x4 outlets. Also a suggestion is to fit grub scree so as to prevent rattles as it will drive you mad on dirt roads. A dust cover over the mechanical system will also hep.


Other items you will need,

High lift jack points
Jack point adaptor
wheel buddy
Base plate for high lift jack.


All can be purchased from Front Runner.
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Re: High lift jack

Post by Peter Connan »

The opinion of an opinionated person:
I have been using hi-lift jacks for about 20 years.

I have accomplished recoveries with this simple tool that no other piece of equipment could do, short of perhaps an excavator.
I have had three different ones, the first the "official" hi-lift jack, the second a SA-made version (which was actually better in a lot of ways, but unfortunately they no longer seem to be available) and the third an Adendorf special. This last is a straight copy of the hi-lift, not quite as well made but works OK.

Yes, it is big, heavy, unyieldy, dangerous, dirty etc. etc. It is a recovery tool, and should (virtually) never be used for tire changes or vehicle maintenance.

But it is also incredibly capable with many different uses.

However, because of it's instability (which incedentally is a large proportion of why it is so usefull as a recovery tool), it is very very difficult to use on a vehicle as heavy as a Patrol. You must also understand exactly how it works, as the mechanism will mal-function sooner or later, and you will have to "ovverride" it sooner or later.

Incedentally, the normal round adapter turns it into an almost useless item. You need bumpers and preferably rock-slider onto which you can jack directly.

It is also transformed by a number of additional equipment. A wheel-buddy is just one, but one of the better ones. Some chain and cable also comes in usefull.
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