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Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 13 Mar 2018 20:48
by Pieter B
It's agreat place to sit on when posing for a picture during the River trip.....

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 13 Mar 2018 20:58
by SJC
Pieter B wrote:
13 Mar 2018 20:48
It's agreat place to sit on when posing for a picture during the River trip.....
and a place to put your beer when there is no table around... :blonde: :lol:

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 14 Mar 2018 06:36
by Clem
SJC wrote:
13 Mar 2018 19:15
BZT bars from summit4x4 are a lot cheaper... about 12k afaik :oldtimer:
But not airbag compatible AFAIK? Thst was the reason I went with a 2nd hand ARB instead of a new BZT or other.

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 14 Mar 2018 08:01
by SJC

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 12:25
by ra_01
offroadbiker wrote:
13 Mar 2018 11:58
If weight is your biggest concern, then if I remember correctly one of our Cape members had an Alu bulbar fitted. Better than standard and lighter than steel bull bar...
Sorry for the delayed response everyone.

This sounds promising. Will do some re-search on this. Do you mean Alloy bullbar?

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 12:30
by ra_01
Pieter B wrote:
13 Mar 2018 20:48
It's agreat place to sit on when posing for a picture during the River trip.....
Hi Pieter, that's an extremely expensive photograph (30K) :surprised:

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 12:36
by ra_01
Alex Roux wrote:
13 Mar 2018 17:31
ra_01 wrote:
13 Mar 2018 08:21

Also heavier and worse aerodynamics - Consumption worse. Also less power mass ratio - every bit counts when driving dunes.
And the trandemark bullbars like ARB are super expensive. Around 25k for a new one on the facelift models.

I consider it valuable in trail driving. Not only better approach angles (although not all bumper designs are better than the tupperware), but the damage on a hit is more manageable than the plastic.
Hi Alex, I am also under the same view for now.
Not exactly convinced yet.

But if there's a lightweight bullbar that doesn't compromise stability, impact on the front suspension etc, then I will certainly look into it.

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 14:38
by SCUBA Patrol
ra_01 wrote:
15 Mar 2018 12:25
offroadbiker wrote:
13 Mar 2018 11:58
If weight is your biggest concern, then if I remember correctly one of our Cape members had an Alu bulbar fitted. Better than standard and lighter than steel bull bar...
Sorry for the delayed response everyone.

This sounds promising. Will do some re-search on this. Do you mean Alloy bullbar?
Alu bars are not always lighter in weight, to get to the same strength the weight is almost the same if not heavier... do your math and research carefully!

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 16:20
by Clem
Phillip, I had a TJM aluminum job on a particular car before my wife stuffed it up and then replaced it with a standard ARB job. The TJM was much lighter but not as strong. But it absorbed the impact and deformed and did not transfer the shock into the ladder frame. Not sure if an ally bulbar is better or worse - all depends I think.

Re: BullBar..Is it really necessary for Overlanding

Posted: 16 Mar 2018 10:38
by ra_01
Clem wrote:
15 Mar 2018 16:20
Phillip, I had a TJM aluminum job on a particular car before my wife stuffed it up and then replaced it with a standard ARB job. The TJM was much lighter but not as strong. But it absorbed the impact and deformed and did not transfer the shock into the ladder frame. Not sure if an ally bulbar is better or worse - all depends I think.
Hi Chlem,

Do you know the difference in weight for TJM vs ARM?