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Waffer rims?

Postby Ds J » 13 Jan 2017 15:07

Ek het 'n '85 4x4 Hilux met 5x15" smal staalvellings (rims) en 4x15" breës.

Ons Fortuner-aansoek het deur die mat geval (die agent het die kar aan 'n ander persoon verkoop!) maar ons het uiteindelik 'n 4.2TD Patrol opgelyn en behoort die koop volgende week te doen.

Nou is die vraag eenvoudig: kan ek die 15" Toyota Hilux wiele op die Patrol gebruik? Dit sal tog 'n plesier wees om 11 of 15 identiese wiele tussen die voertuie te hê. Wat is die voor- en nadele van my plan?

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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby ricster » 13 Jan 2017 18:49

I think you may be able to use the 15" rims.... BUT just check and double check that the rims seat themselves 100% onto the hubs. The Patrol hub has a small radius where the center hole of the rim sits on. I do stand corrected on this and it may only be an issue on the mag rims and not on the steel rims. I know on the mag rims one can machine a small radius on the rim to allow it to fit properly. I don't know of anyone up your side of the world that has a TD42 to allow you to swap a front wheel quickly to double check.
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Carel » 13 Jan 2017 19:01

Cedric, the centre hole on the Patrol rim is larger than that of the Toyota and I don't think a steel rim can be machined to enlarge the centre hole.
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Tinus lotz » 13 Jan 2017 20:13

I know that to fit 15 inch wheels you need a sertain ofset the general grabbers muddies are dirt cheap and gives nive floatation for dirt and sand Michael will know as he did the exercise
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Peter Connan » 13 Jan 2017 20:48

Carel wrote:Cedric, the centre hole on the Patrol rim is larger than that of the Toyota and I don't think a steel rim can be machined to enlarge the centre hole.


Steelies can be machined.

You just need to check brake clearance (should be ok) and offset.
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Ds J » 13 Jan 2017 21:09

Thanks a lot folks, I have neither time nor knowledge or money to waste on improvent ventures and adaptions. Standard it will be.
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Ds J » 19 Mar 2017 06:15

Good morning Folks, I really hope you are doing well on this long weekend and seriously jealous of the guys on the Duine Trip :redface:

I am contemplating narrower wheels for the Mrs' Patrol. Not immediately but when the time comes. Reasons are quite easy: fuel consumption, efficiency on the Kalahari roads, road noise etc. I really think we have more to gain from narrower tyres.

The current tires are Windforce 285/75/16's and I would like to move to 265/75/16 or even 235/85/16 or something similar. The wide tyres are good, yes, but expensive to replace and not necessary for our purposes.

I would need to get other rims because the current rims are 10J and narrower tyres simply don't fit that well on them, at least according to the local experience.

Can you please give me a few pointers on the selection of another set of rims? Where to start / what to look for etc? I would not mind swopping the current set for a narrower set, but simply don't even know where to start.
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Jorrie » 19 Mar 2017 06:59

Is dit standaard rims wat op die Patrol is?
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby Kagiso II » 19 Mar 2017 18:15

Doom Jaap -- Die standaard Patrol staal vellings [16" ] is 9j .. Ek het pas 265/70/16 General Grabber A/T [NIE muds NIE] opgesit en hulle sit mooi op die 9" vellings. Die "California" Staal vellings is gewoonlik 8J [8"] En hulle is die goedkoopste.
Belangrik om kennis te neem wat die manne meld van die middel gat se deursnee op die Patrol [voor] Die Patrol se naaf sirkel het groter deursnee as die gewone ander 4x4 trokkies en speelghoed soos Cruiser en Jeep en Hi Lux en Hard Body en SANI en Isuzu .. Selfs die meeste aluminium / magnesium vellings se middel gat is te klein vir die Patrol .. Enigste wat ek van weet [want5 ek het n stel op my iNyathi] is die WAW vellings [hulle vrag gradering is ook n gawe 900Kg per velling .. wat jou aan die skoonkant hou by die versekering as daar n ongeluk is [an enige aard]
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Hoe ver gaan jou huidige bande nog hou? [Nuut is hulle nou R1950 vir die 285/75/16] Goed soos Dueller en BF natuurlik 3 tot 4 duisend en op per band.
[ek self is in die nood vir n paar 285/75/16 [4 van hulle] Ek het n stel 265/70/16 B F Goodridge A/T op Patrol staal rims wat geruil kan word
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Re: Waffer rims?

Postby SJC » 19 Mar 2017 20:37

Die standaard patrol grx mags is 8j (praat mou van wat op my 4.5 was). Sover ek weet is die staal rims waarmee die patrol waens uit gekom het ook 8j.
Die 4.2 patrol bakkie het met 235/85r16's op 6.5jj rims uitgekom. Praat nou van suid afrika se mark. Oorsee het daar ook patrols met 7" x 16" (split rims) wiele uitgekom... En dan ook met 235/70r16's op 6j rims.

Patrol wiele se "centre bore" is 110, meeste ander fabrikate is 108. Maar daar is maniere om hier verby te kom.

Ek het 255/85r16's op my patrols,dis vir my n lekker kombinasie van groot omtrek/deursnee(33") en minder rol weerstand as 285/75r16's..., 285's vertoon seker beter vir sommige mense...
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