Mag/Rim size
- Tjaart
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Mag/Rim size
I would like to know from a few Patrol guys:
What size rims/mags do most of us use? I've got 16" standard Patrol mags. The cost of 16" tires, however, are on average, a R1000+ more expensive than 15" tires. Is there any disadvantage of fitting 15" mags and tires on your Patrol? I've seen a few guys with 15" wheels, and want to know if there is any problem fitting a 15" mag over the 4500 GRX front brake discs and calipers?
I've got a 2" OME suspension, and I'm planning on buying 33"x12.5-R15 Bridgestone Dueler MT/R 673, which I get for R1500 a tire . Any help advice will be appreciated.
What size rims/mags do most of us use? I've got 16" standard Patrol mags. The cost of 16" tires, however, are on average, a R1000+ more expensive than 15" tires. Is there any disadvantage of fitting 15" mags and tires on your Patrol? I've seen a few guys with 15" wheels, and want to know if there is any problem fitting a 15" mag over the 4500 GRX front brake discs and calipers?
I've got a 2" OME suspension, and I'm planning on buying 33"x12.5-R15 Bridgestone Dueler MT/R 673, which I get for R1500 a tire . Any help advice will be appreciated.
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Re: Mag/Rim size
Ek het al my Safari se 15" mags op die Patrol gesit sonder 'n probleem.
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Re: Mag/Rim size
Tjaart,
Ek dink nie jy kan verkeerd gaan met daardie kombinasie nie - ek dink die meeste ouens gaan af 15" toe juis vir die koste effektiewe rede. Obviously omdat jy kleiner rims opsit verloor jy hoogte - en dis hoekom daar dan weer opgegaan word na die 33" of selfs 35" wiele toe. Jy kry ook n beter offset op die 15" rims - so jou kar kry outomaties sommer "attitude" ook by - wat jy nie op die 16" rims of mags kry nie - ek moet wheel spacers opsit vir die "attitude". En my 305 16" Coopers wat ek nou opgesit het my R3000-00 per tyre gekos!!
Omtrent meeste ouens wat ek ken met 4x4's in my vriendekring (en daar is n hele paar) ry met 15" wiele.
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Ek dink nie jy kan verkeerd gaan met daardie kombinasie nie - ek dink die meeste ouens gaan af 15" toe juis vir die koste effektiewe rede. Obviously omdat jy kleiner rims opsit verloor jy hoogte - en dis hoekom daar dan weer opgegaan word na die 33" of selfs 35" wiele toe. Jy kry ook n beter offset op die 15" rims - so jou kar kry outomaties sommer "attitude" ook by - wat jy nie op die 16" rims of mags kry nie - ek moet wheel spacers opsit vir die "attitude". En my 305 16" Coopers wat ek nou opgesit het my R3000-00 per tyre gekos!!
Omtrent meeste ouens wat ek ken met 4x4's in my vriendekring (en daar is n hele paar) ry met 15" wiele.
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Re: Mag/Rim size
Going to a smaller rim diameter does not necessarily imply losing ground clearance, because that is determined by the outside diameter of the tyre and tyres of different aspect ratio are available.Pieter du Toit wrote:Obviously omdat jy kleiner rims opsit verloor jy hoogte - en dis hoekom daar dan weer opgegaan word na die 33" of selfs 35" wiele toe.
For instance, the Patrol's standard tyre size of 265/70R16 has a nominal diameter of 30.6", which is very close to the 31" nominal diameter of a 31x10.5R15 tyre that would fit a 15" rim. Likewise a 285/75R16 tyre has a nominal diameter of 32.8", which is very close to the 33" nominal diameter of a 33x12.5R15 tyre.
It is debateable whether this is better. The standard Patrol rims have an offset of 10mm, while most aftermarket rims have an offset of 0mm or a negative offset. This moves the wheels outboard (effectively widening the wheel width), but also increases the load on wheel bearings and steering system (not that I doubt for one moment that the Patrol is hugely over-engineered in these areas as well ). Wide set wheels increase vehicle stability, but does a better job of chuckking stones at the bodywork and mud past the wheel arches.Pieter du Toit wrote:Jy kry ook n beter offset op die 15" rims
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Re: Mag/Rim size
mud past the wheel arches.[/quote]
Just the way we like it!!!
Just the way we like it!!!
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Tjaart wrote:Just the way we like it!!!
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Re: Mag/Rim size
Gerrit Loubser wrote:For instance, the Patrol's standard tyre size of 265/70R16 has a nominal diameter of 30.6", which is very close to the 31" nominal diameter of a 31x10.5R15 tyre that would fit a 15" rim. Likewise a 285/75R16 tyre has a nominal diameter of 32.8", which is very close to the 33" nominal diameter of a 33x12.5R15 tyre.
Gerrit dankie vir die meer tegniese uitleg van die rim en wheel sizes - ek het julle mos gese ek is blond!!! Wat ek wel bedoel het met my stelling van mens verloor "ground clearance" is as jy dieselfde tyre size op n 15" rim as 16" rim sou sit - dan sou jy grondhoogte verloor het. Maar dis seker maar n swak vergelyking want die tyre sizes is nie dieselfde in 15" en 16" duim nie. Sorry - Blondie
Dis mos nou die "attitude" waarvan ons praat - en ja ouens soos Hein moet darem ook af en toe bietjie respray werk kry om te doen en die car wash en valet plek moet darem ook besigheid kry!!!!Gerrit Loubser wrote:Wide set wheels increase vehicle stability, but does a better job of chuckking stones at the bodywork and mud past the wheel arches.
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Re: Mag/Rim size
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Tjaart,
Het nog nie baie tyd vir fotos neem gekry nie - Blaasoppie bly by die Dr jong - dit kom net nie klaar nie. Een plek in en ander een uit. More gaan hy alweer vir die caster corrections. Maar hier is solank n paar fotos wat wel geneem is.
Die een is geneem die dag toe ek terugkom van Johan Viljoen af - net opgesit.
Hier is ek & Frans besig om die OME Shims in te sit - nogal n impessive stance
en hoe's dit vir FLEX!!!!
Nee joke net - hier het ons al die shock, anti roll bar & stabiliser losgemaak sodat die diff kan uitsak en ons die coil kan uitkry - maar dit lyk nog steeds "IMPRESSIVE" ne. Sou mal gewees het as ons daai tipe articulation uit ons aste kon kry - sou nooit bang wees ek gooi hom om nie!!!
Ek belowe jou sodra Blaasoppie klaar is dan sal ek n volledige posting doen met alles wat gedoen is en fotos ook - before en after.
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Het nog nie baie tyd vir fotos neem gekry nie - Blaasoppie bly by die Dr jong - dit kom net nie klaar nie. Een plek in en ander een uit. More gaan hy alweer vir die caster corrections. Maar hier is solank n paar fotos wat wel geneem is.
Die een is geneem die dag toe ek terugkom van Johan Viljoen af - net opgesit.
Hier is ek & Frans besig om die OME Shims in te sit - nogal n impessive stance
en hoe's dit vir FLEX!!!!
Nee joke net - hier het ons al die shock, anti roll bar & stabiliser losgemaak sodat die diff kan uitsak en ons die coil kan uitkry - maar dit lyk nog steeds "IMPRESSIVE" ne. Sou mal gewees het as ons daai tipe articulation uit ons aste kon kry - sou nooit bang wees ek gooi hom om nie!!!
Ek belowe jou sodra Blaasoppie klaar is dan sal ek n volledige posting doen met alles wat gedoen is en fotos ook - before en after.
Groetnis
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