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The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 27 Oct 2016 14:12
by Alex Roux
It seems the very latest stock Hilux failed the Moose test (again)
Some of the earlier models also failed.
See below. Other bakkies seemed to have done okay

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyo ... sbqnl.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHbn8-ROiQ

Now, my question:

Will your rig pass it?
I.e. with roofrack, OME 2" etc.
Right now, I suspect I won't.

Going straight through is not an option either, (in our case, through thnot a Moose, but a Kudu or a Friday night inebriated pedestrian.
The Moose (or Kudu) will kill you, and the pedestrian will land you in hot water.

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 27 Oct 2016 17:56
by David M
Alex Roux wrote:It seems the very latest stock Hilux failed the Moose test (again)
Some of the earlier models also failed.
See below. Other bakkies seemed to have done okay

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyo ... sbqnl.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoHbn8-ROiQ

Now, my question:

Will your rig pass it?
I.e. with roofrack, OME 2" etc.
Right now, I suspect I won't.

Going straight through is not an option either, (in our case, through thnot a Moose, but a Kudu or a Friday night inebriated pedestrian.
The Moose (or Kudu) will kill you, and the pedestrian will land you in hot water.
Maybe do not ask questions we would rather not know the answer to :naughty: :naughty:

But seriously with an aftermarket bumper with a proper winch plate mounted to the chassis legs in the factory bolt holes I am not so sure that the Kudu will kill you at 60 km/h which is the speed that the test is conducted at. You also have that massive bar behind the dash for added protection so the Kudu would need to move the bullbar, winch plate, chassis legs, motor and then crush the bar.

Keen to know what the more technical among us like PC think?

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 27 Oct 2016 20:02
by Wilkie
The problem hitting these kidoes is the height and 99% of the time its the horns of the kudu that hits you because you hit him and taken his long legs out from under him and he falls on your bonnet and slide through your windscreen
So i reckon wirh the height of our Patrols and bull bar we have a better chance :mytwocents: :mytwocents:

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 27 Oct 2016 21:36
by Alex Roux
I agree
That is the problem. The strongest bullbar will not prevent the Kudu from penetrating your front windscreen.
But also, we do not drive at 60 km/h. So doing the swerve test at 120 will roll all of those bakkies.

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 05:55
by Tinus lotz
Me thinks a new unlifted patrol will be fine ....us with lift kits roofracks ect ...no anti sway bars....we need to put more lights to see them first.... :rolling:

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 06:57
by Peter Connan
We definately need to drive with more forethought than a Porche 911 owner.

But can he take his whole family to Kubu for two weeks in the wet season?

The day they can get an interlink through that moose test i will start worrying about it.

Kudus tend to jump and come in through the window, but this only happens at night. So don't drive in these areas at night.

As for inebriated pedestrians, if they really are inebriated you only have your own conscience to fear. Not that that is to be lightly tossed aside as of no importance. I speak from experience here.

Us with the older cars without ABS probably will plough straight on as the natural tendency is to climb on the brakes, locking them up and removing any control over direction.

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 07:32
by David M
Peter Connan wrote:
Kudus tend to jump and come in through the window, but this only happens at night.
Good point. Have first hand experience of a cow trying to jump a motorbike. If the Kudu gets to full height before you hit it it will do damage to the roofrack and cargo but you should be fine other than any trailing legs.

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 07:36
by David M
Peter Connan wrote:Us with the older cars without ABS probably will plough straight on as the natural tendency is to climb on the brakes, locking them up and removing any control over direction.
On anything but a tarred road I am taking the no ABS over ABS every day. A good reason to engage 4H once off the tar whether needing it or not.

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 08:19
by iandvl
David M wrote:On anything but a tarred road I am taking the no ABS over ABS every day. A good reason to engage 4H once off the tar whether needing it or not.
David,

Interesting comment that - can I ask you to elaborate ? Why is ABS worse on dirt road ? Also, I was under the impression that ABS stays active in 4H and 4L and is only disabled in LR with diff-lock on. Perhaps I misunderstood the stuff. Sorry - not looking to argue about stuff - just unsure as to what makes ABS worse on dirt...

Re: The "Moose Test" - Will your rig pass it?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016 08:36
by Peter Connan
My family have never been "early adopters". We always get the new tech last. Mainly due to cash flow, but anyway.

Many years ago my dad's friend bought a new merc. I was allowed to drive it, but only on a dirt road (didn't have a licence yet).

Got a very big surprise when it wouldn't brake at all. The owner took over, swearing at me, and promptly got the same surprise.

The corrugations confused the ABS. It thought wheels were locking up, and released...

They have gotten a lot better since then, however there is evidence to suggest that non-ABS works better on dirt because the locked wheels bull-doze a little wall in front of the wheels.