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Re: Diff ratios

Post by davidvdm » 03 Dec 2016 21:14

Wilkie wrote:
davidvdm wrote:Out of Interest, I purchased a 80-83 MQ Patrol bakkie (Safari) for my SFA conversion. It came with a C200 front and H260 Right drop rear end. They run 4.88 ratio.

I was very surprised, as this is the original Hardbody ratio, and I was worried sick that I would have to do a ratio change, but got lucky to get the same off the Patrol.
Hi David..are you saying that the Nissan hardbody 4.88 ratio crown wheel and pinion will fit onto a patrol...??
Sorry Wilkie, I missed this thread totally. Did I miss the post where you actually state what diff\s you have in your Patrol. I am presuming it is H233 front and H260 rear.

I don't know how the H233 diffs differ from year 96 (HB) to whatever your Patrol has... Is a H233 a H233 no matter of year model?

I found some good information on the NPORA forum regarding diffs, but it was obviously more biased to the Pathfinders. May be worthwhile reading and get yourself as confused as I did :lol: http://www.nissanpathfinders.net/forum/ ... na-manual/
May actually have some relevant info if you are indeed running the H233 diff. They say it was a better/stronger diff than the C200.

As a side note, the H260 seems comparable to the Dana60's and 80's. Not much out there with better than 37 spline and 1.51" side shafts. But as mentioned by someone else, that pumpkin is huge. I think I am still worse off with my 33" tyres with the H260 compared to the C200 on 31" tyres, in the clearance department. Only thing I am thinking may be an advantage, is the offset pumpkin... At least it will not be right on top of the "middle mannetjie"
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Re: Diff ratios

Post by Alex Roux » 01 Mar 2017 18:35

hugejp wrote:Hope this helps...
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Can someone explain this to me

It says that the 4.8 manual uses the 4.375 ratio, while the auto uses the 3.5 ratio.
That is a heck of a difference, for the same engine, almost the same gearbox ratios, and same weight?
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Re: Diff ratios

Post by Alex Roux » 01 Mar 2017 19:34

I just realised,
the gearboxes cannot have the same ratios.
That is probably were it evens out again.
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Re: Diff ratios

Post by Wilkie » 01 Mar 2017 20:51

Hi Alex
i'm very anxious to see what my 4.5 with the 4.375 and 4.8 with the 4.11 is going to be like :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

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Re: Diff ratios

Post by Wilkie » 02 Mar 2017 06:09

just some more info::::the 4.8 manual with the 4.375 diffs are much bigger than the 4.5L auto 's diff although the ratios are the same....
that 4.8 diffs are massive and I think will that any abuse from any powerplant :woo:

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Re: Diff ratios

Post by davidvdm » 03 Mar 2017 12:05

You say massive.... As in H260 massive?
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Re: Diff ratios

Post by Wilkie » 03 Mar 2017 14:41

davidvdm wrote:You say massive.... As in H260 massive?
its big..

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Re: Diff ratios

Post by SJC » 03 Mar 2017 16:42

Maybe the 4.5 auto got h233 diffs front and back, instead of the huge h260 rear diff.....? Im not sure.

The 4.5 manual also got the huge h260 rear diff...

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Re: Diff ratios

Post by davidvdm » 07 Mar 2017 18:09

Wilkie wrote:its big..
My wife says the same thing.... But compared to what??? :lol: I'll go measure the Sani's H260 pumpkin and then you can compare :wink:
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Re: Diff ratios

Post by davidvdm » 10 Mar 2017 08:09

davidvdm wrote:
Wilkie wrote:its big..
My wife says the same thing.... But compared to what??? :lol: I'll go measure the Sani's H260 pumpkin and then you can compare :wink:
Pumpkin is around 320mm high and from pinion to back of pumpkin it's around 480mm.
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This thing is Beeeeeeg and heavy...
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MQ Patrol C200 SFA
MQ Patrol H260 LSD Rear
MQ Patrol Transfer as second low range
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33"x12.5x15" tires on 8.5J rims
DIY rock sliders
DIY Snorkel
Madman EMS

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