Difflock functioning

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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by ricster » 17 Feb 2015 08:40

Johann 1984 wrote:Hi Ricster,

Clearly, you are the voice of reason. I appreciate the advice. After reading the post, I tend to aggree. If I'm not going to take the auto-locker, then I'll rather stay open. The prices of air-lockers are bizarre.


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Johann.... I don't mean to put you off doing what you want.... but I would rather use that money for suspension upgrade, as the Patrol is very long and a 2 odd inch lift goes a looooooong way, and then some nice 33" all terrain tyres or even muddies,

There are a lot of guys here that would love a front locker..... me included..... but like the 12000lb warn winch I have in front of my Patrol, I have never needed to use it to recover myself, so it is a nice to have.... but not a necessity. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Brett Bignoux » 30 Apr 2015 20:21

Good day fellows of the PATROL world ! For those of you wondering about front diff lock . I fitted an ARB diff lock for climbing up rock steps , cross axle situations , and deep mud , and also for wet rock traction (my safari has a very good limited slip diff in the rear). they do have their problems ! when your compressor goes down , and you can`t pump tyres or use air tools either . air leaks from stray sticks finding the air pipes ! They also break things like CV joints , and strip side shaft splines !(never reverse out of steep gullies with the front diff lock on !) So , yes guys , they do work well , just be carefull of HOW YOU USE IT ! NOW GO FOUR WHEELING for the fun of it ! BRETT .
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Re: Difflock functioning

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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Wilkie » 12 Sep 2016 15:48

Fanus hulle noem dit n progressive locker diff en sodra jy torque op die diff sit skuif die caps uit wat op 6 staal roller bearings hardloop en dit is amper soos n wedge effek wat dan die spider gears 'lock' en soos hy verduidelik het
sodra jy jou voet van die petrol afhaal unlock dit weer... jy moet maar n prentjie in jou mind kry van hoeveel keer daai locker in en uit skop soos jy oor rotse ry en hoeveel strain dit op alle bewegende dele sit.

ons het dit probeer op die eerste groep 4x4 rally karre (Conquest) ens ...ons moes ten minste n gearbox met elke rally vervang want daai progressive locker het ons elke keer gebyt :redface: :redface:

ek dink maak eers jou lsd reg en kyk dan of jy n locker gaan nodig kry..

As ek kon sou ek eerder n lsd voor in my Patrol wou gesit het :mytwocents: :mytwocents:

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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Tinus lotz » 12 Sep 2016 18:10

Fanus .....luister mooi wat die manne sê ....sodra jy torque op hom sit kom hy los .....so dis n losser nie n locker nie . Hy ga tires eet ...en jou laat gly op plekke waar jy hom nodig het ...los koop n regte locker of rol met jou lsd

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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Peter Connan » 12 Sep 2016 19:19

Praat ook met Johannes van die See, hy het so 'n auto-locker op sy vorige Hilux gehad. Ek weet dat hy op meer as een geleenthyd onderdele gebreek het as gevolg daarvan.

Dalk sal Oom Mac ook bereid wees om hier iets te se, hy het een agter in sy Prado gehad vir 'n tyd.

Tog se sekere mense dat die kanse van goed breek eintlik kleiner is. Persoonlik weet ek nie, ek het nog nooit met 'n kar gery met een in nie.
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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Picasso » 12 Sep 2016 20:16

Hi Fanus

As per Wilkie... I would first get the LSD sorted.

If you have more trust in a Locker compared to a LSD than I would rather fit a locker on the rear wheels.

And if you want to go over the top than fit a locker to the rear wheels first and thereafter to the front wheels.
However that should be a locker which can be switched on and off manually.

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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Michael » 13 Sep 2016 05:25

Ganus, jy beplan sekerlik nie om n locker coor in ye sit en dan eers jou LSD reg te maak nie?
Maak jou LSD reg, dan is daar n groot kans dat jy happy met joi bakkie gaan wees soos hy is en n voorste locker nie nodig gaan he nie :mytwocents:
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Re: Difflock functioning

Post by Peter Connan » 13 Sep 2016 05:58

Ek wil dit net weer se: lockers en lsd's is soos 'n kettingsaag teen 'n wielsaag.

Hulle saag al twee hout, maar die een is nie 'n plaasvervanger vir die ander nie, en hulle is nie ontwerp om dieselfde werk te doen nie.

Lockers is bedoel vir stadige situasies waar jy wiele heeltemal van die grond af lig. LSD is vir situasies waar die oppervlak onder die wiele maklik skuif. MAW sand, modder en sneeu/ys.

Vir wat Fanus met daai bakkie probeer dken, het hy eintlik 'n locker nodig.

Maar mens se hoof locker moet eintlik agter wees.

Dit is moontlik om 'n LSD baie stywer te stel, maar dit moet nie verwar word met "regmaak" nie. Dis heeltemal 'n ander proses. En soos alles het dit ook nadele. Die sluit 'n swakker draaisirkel en baie swakker band-lewe in die dorp.

Van autolockers weet ek net dat party mense mal is oor hulle en ander kan hulle nie verdra nie.
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