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My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Jules » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:37 pm

Hello to all, lately about one week after I had my petrol filter and spark plugs changed my Patrol sometimes ( when changing gear ) have a short/brief power loss, as if the petrol is not coming through continuosly. When the mechanic initialy changed the petrol filter and sparkplugs he made a booboo ( but that has been fixed ).

Where is the best place to start the diagnostic check, please understand I am an accountant and not to much technical inclined but I do know where is the bonnet and the plug to connect my freezer for cold beers.

Is it perhaps that my Patrol has developed some cobwebs and that just a good petrol peddle against the floor for a few kilometers will clean its throat a bit

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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Dustin » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:07 pm

HI Jules

I'm inclined to say check the fuel pump first.
If memory serves me correctly, the old GQ 4.2's had a mechanical fuel pump that runs off of the crank.
It sounds to me that when you change gears, that the crank speed decreases rapidly (no revs) and the fuel pump looses pressure.
If possible, stay with the origonal mechanical pump, and don't change it for the electrical type... less hastles on the old mechanical jobs.
See if you can find someone to check it for you first, before you rush out and replace it, it could just be dirty.
Another possibilty is that there is dirt in the fuel lines, a good flogging on the open road can force the dirt out.

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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Jules » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:38 pm

Thanks Dustin I will look at the issues you raised, the sympton you described is spot on. It seems more of an issue early morning when the vehicle is still cold

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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby tour de frans » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:44 pm

Jules,ek dink die tyd reeling is te stadig.Goeie dag,askuus.
Die mackies maak n fout as dit by die stel kom van n distributor.Almal wil die tyd stel op luier spoed en kyk nooit wat met die tyd gebeur wanner die enjin oprev nie.Maw die meganiese advance en die vacuum advance.(as jou kar een het.)In elkgeval die luier tyd is van belang maar nie so belangrik soos wat met die tyd gebeur as die enjin begin rev nie.Jy luier mos nie in die pad af nie!As n werkswinkel nie vir jou kan kyk wat die ADVANCE TIMEING is nie,draai om en loop weg,soek n volgende een.
Dit klink of you kar lui of dan nou stadig oprev,die eerste ding is te stadige tyd.
Van watter gebied is jy ek kan jou dalk op n goeie werkswinkel se spoor sit.
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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Jules » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:37 pm

Hallo Frans

Ek is in Richardsbaai, Kwa Zulu Natal hier in die juweel van Zoeloeland ( selde dorpie as Gerrit )

Ek het my distributor so 3-4 jaar terug vervang met n elektroniese ignition. Toe die mech my vonkproppe en petrol filter vervang het het hy die carburator ook skoon gemaak, my Patrollie was erg rukkerig daarna , ek het n post opgehad daaroor maar die mech kon die probleem oplos toe ek hom teruggevat het. Volgens hom het hulle nie aan die tyd van my lorrie geraak nie want ek het dit nie gevra nie.

n Ander vraag is dit normaal dat die revs klim as mens die aircon aanskakel, een van my vriende het n Landy en sy revs val as hy sy aircon aansit. Ons gebruik die aircon op die Landy soms as n rem meganisme as ons n steil afdraende tackle. Aanvanklik het my revs ook gedaal as ek dit aansit maar toe ek die elektroniese ignition opsit het die auto elektrisien vir my gewys dat hier n konneksie kabel nie konnekteer is nie, sedertdien ry ek maar met die konneksie aan.

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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Gerrit Loubser » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:37 pm

By watter werkswinkel het jy aan jou Patrol laat werk, Jules?
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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby tour de frans » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:16 pm

Hallo Jules.
As jou voertuig n solinoid het wat die "carburator" n bietjie aanstoot sodra jy die aircon aan sit,sal die revs klim.Daardie gedeelte is ook verstelbaar om die hoer toere te bepaal.Brandstof inspuitvoetuie maak gebruik van n "idle control valve",klink ingewikkeld maar werk baie eenvoudig.Die aircon pomp vat krag van die enjin en veroorsaak dat n enjin stadiger idle as hy aan is,dit is hoekom voertuie n luier hulpmiddel het vir wanneer jy idle.
Die konneksie wat jy van praat is waarskynlik die solinoid draad wan die idle "bump"sodra die aircon aan is.
Ek ken ook ongelukkig niemand in daai deel van die werld nie,maar as jy JHB of kaap toe kom met jou kar kan ek jou verwys of dalk self help.
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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Jules » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:57 am

Thanks Frans sal die naweek bietjie my engine besigtig, Gerrit ek het hom na Riaan Coertse by Reginal Auto Electrical gevat hul is naby Delta in Alton. Dit was nadat Johan Pille ( 4.5 Patrol ) so n goeie diens by hul gekry het op sy Patrol dat ek besluit het om my lorrie ook soontoe te vat. Dalk wou Riaan of sy assistent te veel karring om die carburator skoon temaak dat hul die stof en grime wat daar in vas net bietjie dieper in te blaas.

Dalk moet ek hom maar volgende keer na daardie konneksie van jou vat by L&J Motors. Ek is nou eers besig ook om my rims uittesorteer.

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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby KOOS BEST » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:36 am

Jules wrote:Ek is in Richardsbaai, Kwa Zulu Natal hier in die juweel van Zoeloeland

Jules , jy sal bietjie in daai Trol moet klim en ry my vriend , as jy dink dit is n juweel ,ag nee sies man, die plek stink !!!
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Re: My 4.2 GQ tends to be a bit "lui"

Postby Jules » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:04 am

More Koos, toe ek daardie comment maak het ek geweet jy gaan erg kapsie maak, jy was seker erg besig dat jy nou eers reply. Ja Mtunzini is n paradys, maar elke ou plekkie is wat jy daarvan maak. So lank as wat ek my SWAMBO'tjie saam met my het is ek in paradys kort net n goeie whiskey of brandewyntjie en die Kaap is weer Hollands

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