Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

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Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by pietpetoors » 20 Mar 2018 17:54

Hi, I recently bought a fibreglass CJ5 which was built on a Nissan Patrol/Safari chassis.
Everything under the shell is Patrol/Safari.

Does anybody know if this chassis number is a standard Patrol chassis number? A06405P

I want to know if it is still the original and if the vehicle received a new number when it was built.

I also would like to know which year model the Patrol was so that I can use it when I have to buy spares.

Another thing, it has the trusty old 2.8 Nissan engine with some weber carb. It is not very efficient, when I trap it, it is like nothing is happening, it just slowly increase speed.
What other carb options are there for these engines? The engine is a fresh rebuild and is running perfectly.
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Re: Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by iandvl » 20 Mar 2018 18:02

I'm not very familiar with the Safaris.

There is a manual here somewhere.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9izkej81bg8k ... eAcxa?dl=0

Refer the "General Information" section, as this may provide you with additional information regarding VIN etc.

Keep us posted.

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Post by Kagiso II » 21 Mar 2018 00:48

Pietaaaa !!!! My Mater, jy soooo skaars [en ek kom ook maar min oppi HiLux forum [luigeit]

Ek het jou die Manual in PDF gestuur per e-pos [jou g/mail adres]

Oor daai "carb" Enigste een wat werk vir die 2,8 motor is die Weber 38 of 40. Daai DCD 36 wat jy op het is vir 4 silinder enjins
Tripple tjek jou valve seatings. As daar 'n slim mens in jou omgewing is kan jy die cam timing laat stel om beter te oemffff MAAR dit kos jou meer op brandstof
Die branches lyk goed, is die exhzt agtertoe 63mm ? 9daar moet 62 cm wees VOOR die down pipes kombineer.

Ek het LOBO laat fuel injection en hy loop soos n droomAs jy eendag 5-spoed ratkas wil gaan , die NISSAN Cabstar se 5 spoed werk op hom. Mounting bikki skuif, propshafts bikki verander -- dan het jy ook n 1ste rat wat baie naby aan crawl gear is

Dis n SAFARI / Patrol reeks chassis nr wat jy daar het. Die Skyline enjins pas op hom, hou net die sump .. maar as die enjin oorgedoen is gaan jy paar honderd duisend KM lewe in daai NISS'eep :biggrin:
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Re: Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by pietpetoors » 21 Mar 2018 13:14

Dankie Oom Mac, ek het die manual gekry.
Sal kyk waar daai pype by mekaar kom en gaan nou die vergasser afhaal. Dink hy kry heel te veel petrol.

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Post by pietpetoors » 21 Mar 2018 13:27

O ja en die 5 spoed, die is nie 'n langpad kar nie. Het gister lekker van die Kaap af langebaan toe teen so 110 gery met die rpm so tussen 3100 en 3200.
Glo nie ek wil vreeslik vinniger as dit met hom ry nie. Dink die groot bande bring die rpm af.

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Post by pietpetoors » 21 Mar 2018 17:26

If the engine number starts with L28S , does it say which engine it is?

Apparently the original Safari engine has been replaced by this one.

Had some time to scratch around today.
The carb is a 38 DGMS 11F carb.
I took it apart and cleaned, it looks pretty good.

Who ever fitted the carb put the vacuum advance pipe on the wrong port so I corrected it.

Something I will change in future is the adaptor plate, it was very badly fitted and block (thumb suck) 10% of the air flow.

Changed and re routed the fuel lines and changed the breather on tappet cover.

A total different beast now, the engine is much more willing to rev and has more torque and is much more drivable now than before.

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Re: Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by Tinus lotz » 21 Mar 2018 17:49

Mr Boegman works with them and he uses the 38 webers his safari bakkies goes very good :: :chainsaw: :rock: :rock: :rock:

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Post by Kagiso II » 21 Mar 2018 20:44

Pieta. jy wat wil klim en klouter -- maak plan met daai Weber 38 se float level, die simpel ding loop leeg as jy so 20 grade opdraande klim en dan STAAN JY [dis hoekom ek fuel injection opgesit het op LOBO]
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Re: Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by mvcoller » 21 Mar 2018 22:20

Pieter, as ek reg onhou, my my L28 Safari met sy 38 Two stage Weber se jet grotes as volg:

Main Jets- 125
Air Jets - 110
Spray jets 35 maar is nie nou meer seker nie.
Op die oop pad was sy petrol verbruik 10.5 lt per 100, maar dit was met die Cabal 5 spoed ratkas (31" bande).

Die 5 spoed ratkas het sy revs teen 120 van 4000 rpm (4e met ou ratkas) af gebring na so 3200 rpm in 5e rat. Soos Mac ook uitwys, daai Cabal ratkas het 'n baie kort 1e rat, heng lekker as jy sleep and ook fantasties in die veld in Low Range, veral oor heavy obstacles.

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Re: Information on Patrol/Safari needed?

Post by pietpetoors » 26 Mar 2018 21:30

Dankie julle, ek sal rondkyk vir so 5 spoed ratkas.

Is daar iemand wat dalk 'n ou distributor het want rondlê? Het vanaand die punte vervang met elektroniese ontsteking en toe sommer die distributor gediens.
Die mechanical advance gewiggies het albei vasgesit en die een se springtjie is weg.
Ek soek dus so mechanical advance springtjie.

Malcolm ek sal daai weber weer oopmaak en kyk wat se jets hy inhet. Ek het gesien as ek baie vinnig links draai dan sluk hy, tot ek om die draai is dan loop hy weer.
So sal beslis begin kyk na ander opsies.

Oompie, daardie brandstofinspuiting, waar kry mens daai? Is dit 'n Skyline sin of waar kom hulle vandaan?

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