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Re: RaceChip® Pro2

Fanus,


As a 4.2 diesel owner as well as Cedric and Christo and Michael( sorry Michael never met you) we can attest to the reliability this engine has. Simply makes sure you change the oil and keep the diesel clean and you will have a reliable engine that very few can match.

All of us have turbo and intercooler, mine being a Safari system and Christo and Cendric,s local options and power on the wheels is at around 92 to 95 kW, with torque being in the region of 335 Nm.


A great truck to drive and a monster off road. The torque these engines have make mince meat of most off road conditions and it is simply a case of aim in the direction you want to go and off you go.


I am sure we could also arrange a GTG so you can see our Trolls and we can then discuss what we have done and maintenance options. I would also like to introduce you the the gents at SAC as they have done a great job on my Troll.


Feel free to call me on zeroseventwooneninethreesevenoneeightone.


Cedric, Christo, and Michael ar you guys up for my suggestion ?
by Grant
15 Jan 2015 16:45
 
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Re: Patrol Pickup 4.2D Tyres......advice?!

The Front bar on my Patrol, as seen in previous pic, is an ONCA unit and fitted as Factory from Nissan when purchasing the SAFARI edition patrol pickup.

It is the same bar that is used with the TD42Ti variant,... and to my knowledge i havnt heard/seen any negative issues being raised with the owners of these models thus far, and its been 7 years since they were released.

The Patrol TD42ti is issued with a top mount intercooler as standard factory assembly, so Air flow to intercooler is via bonnet scoop. ... front mount would be a personal modification which would obviously require certain Air voids in a bumper to aid cooling.

As far as power goes.. this is my opinion.

Cruiser 1HZ motor is superior on paper when compared to the TD42 (Normally Aspirated), however, all my findings when the subject of larger tyres in question is that the Cruiser suffers a greater reduction in power than the TD42 in these instances which i can only then attribute to difference is gearing when compared to one another, as i definitely only had minor power variation between the 235x85x16 and the 285x75 x16 on my patrol.

The part that no one talks about is the slightly heavier steering and the speed scrub that occurs when cornering. Certainly both are less whilst using the 235's. But by no means is it an issue for me, we talking about minor changes one can feel through the driving experience and isnt of any dramatic concern.

The Cruiser 1HZ seems to be more susceptible to negative effects of larger tyres, .. in a nutshell .

The one pitfall of all patrols and can be enough of a curse to drive you insane, ... is wheel wobble at 85-105km/h on certain vehicles,.. and also, death wobble,.. however, both of these need a thread all to themselves as im not going into it now. There is plenty of material online.

Cheers
Russ.
by Russ Kellermann
30 Jan 2015 18:26
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

42mm spacers each side will do the trick boet.

Also, if you cannot do the suspension lift for a while, then i suggest the following as a far cheaper alternative that will work perfectly fine until such time.

- Make some extended shackles for the rear leaf springs , easy, if you extend 75mm pin to pin you'll gain a good 1.5"-2.0" , depending on your current leaf pack
- Install front coil spacers that suit the vehicle once your extended shackles are in. All you do is lift the coil and slip them in. most likely 1" - 1.5" will be max.


I made extended shackles for my pickup as Mickem suspensions buggered me around big time, waiting months for them to even quote me and finally they said they can't make them,... i got the moer in and made myself, will post pics and writeup soon as i can for you. easy.

Anyway,.. i would do these 3 things and when you have the loot then put the 2" suspension lift in and remove the coil spacers in front.
by Russ Kellermann
29 Mar 2015 21:16
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

If I remember correctly, you were looking for a roll-bar for the Patrol Pick-up. I see there is one advertised on the community forum - http://www.4x4community.co.za/classifie ... trol/cat/5

Hope it helps.

Ian
by iandvl
11 May 2015 08:59
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

While Russ waits for daylight to take pictures:

On the inside of each swivel hub, there is a circle of bolts holding the swivel hub wiper seals in place. One on each is a longer bolt with a rounded head and a jam nut. This is what you need to adjust. Unscrew a turn, hold with spanner while locking the nut, and try again.
by Peter Connan
10 May 2015 20:07
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

Its the Protruding nut visible in the pics. In the top view you will see the nut making contact with the axle tube, this limits the "Turning Circle" in essence, by limiting the extremes in regard to wheel axis.
by Russ Kellermann
11 May 2015 09:35
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

Hi Fanus.

Maybe this helps.

The 10A fuse will be on the wiring that trigers the relay that in turn closes the circuit to the glow plugs and they will have the 100A fuse on their citcuit.

To answer your questions,
It will not start or run without glow plugs.
It can however start with fualty glow plugs and/or blown fuse.
It would just be harder to start the colder it is and you will get to a point that it would not start by itself if it is very cold. It can still start in very cold weather but the starter can't turn the engine fast enough so if one would let it run on a downhill so you get more engine speed it will start.

In my opinion, lisening to what you describe there is nothing to worry about and I would not change them, I know you feel it is a precuationary measure but it is not something that will leave you stranded, changing them for that reason is like changing your tires while they still have plenty tread left.

Just my thoughts.

Dewald
by Dewald
18 May 2015 23:32
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

I think i'll have a look at the battery first. Maybe not enough power to warm the glowplugs up propperly? But its not every time that i need to turn ignition twice. This morning in the cold it started right way.
The engine runs very smoothly, even at startup. The smoke is more of a puff when the egine cranks up which instantabously subside.

The battery in my patrol is a bosch, here is a pic of the discription/model. Not sure what is the reccomended rating for a patrol?

This is good to hear SJC. Also, Bosch battery is good. I'll check tomorrow as to what size mine is.

The clicks ricster talks about are very very faint. My patrol also has this, so will yours. The best way to illustrate this is to park close to a wall in the evening in the cold, and turn on the engine,as soon as you put your lights on you will see they dim slightly upon each turn of the relay switch, (what ricster was talking about), as it draws power from the loom.

Anyway, .. whats important is that your glow plug system is working correctly and that you have a good cranking battery.

For the record,.. it is possible to start the motor with NO glow plugs working. In fact there are certainly diesel motors from years back that had no glow plugs at all. Compression alone can be enough, ... however, of course,... made worse during colder temps, and impossible at times. A motor that has been designed to operate using glow plugs, should be treated as such of course... Check the Buzz Bar again, to see if its not just a poor connection.

Glad you got the limiter nut sorted out.
by Russ Kellermann
18 May 2015 23:09
 
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Re: River Trip 6-10 August 2015 AKA Die Groot Trek

Ok I have re-done the route as there was a missing section which I lost somehow.

Seems to be displaying all the sections now, but please let me know if something isnt working properly.

1ste Ingang by Molotots 23°31'33.15"S, 30°24'43.82"E
2de Ingang by Molotots 23°30'51.32"S, 30°25'9.19"E
Dzumiri - Nood Bradnstof 23°34'13.01"S, 30°42'16.33"E (Julle 4.8 manne moet hierdie coordinate solank save op julle GPS'e :lol: )
Uitgang uit Molotots 23°39'25.16"S, 30°53'35.80"E
by Michael
19 May 2015 06:25
 
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Re: Koni "Heavy Track" shocks....thoughts?

I got it directly from the SA distributor - D&S Shocks - 011 9182293, steve@koni.co.za.

Cheers Boats
by Boats
02 Jun 2015 17:46
 
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Re: River trip 6 tot 10 aug 2015

SJC wrote:Michael, weereens baie dankie vir die verstellings wat jy op my bakkie gedoen het. Hy ry nou soos 'n droom. :salute:

Groot plesier Fanus, as jy een dag vir my kom kuier dan doen ons dit behoorlik
by Michael
11 Aug 2015 15:23
 
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Re: My Patrol Pickup thread...

Hier is die Manual se info vir die LSD.
by Herrie
14 Aug 2015 14:31
 
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Re: Body Lift

There's absolutely no benefit and no need to body lift a GU / Y61 - wheel arches big enough for 35's even with 1- 2" lift most will have zero scrub.

A GQ / Y60 could perhaps benefit from body lift but would be far more sense to simply 2" lift it, can run 35's off that alone.

Body lifts make zero sense to me regardless. Such a hassle to lift everything else too, rear bar, front bar, gear levers, steering issues, bla bla bla. and for zero improvement in flex, ground clearances, traction, or anything else for that matter.

just my humble opinion naturally... :wink:
by Russ Kellermann
31 Aug 2015 23:01
 
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Re: Installing Turbo Boost Gauge & Madman EGT

hi Fanus, ek kan jou nie help met die boost guage nie want my turbo werk anders. maar ja, daai is al wat jy nodig het op die boost guage. die EGT gauge en probe is biekie meer complicated. en as jy genoeg moed het om self n gat in jou manifold te boor moet jy net seker maak dat jy die kar laat idle terwyl jy boor. boor stadig sodat al die saagsels kan uit blaas. dink dis n 8mm boor as ek reg onthou. en dan n 1/8ste tap wat jy nodig het vir die fitting van die probe. kry n plek op jou manifold maklik bekombaar, verkieslik waar al die silinder pype by mekaar kom. voor die turbo. as jy die fitting in het. stood die probe tot teen die oorkant van die manifold en trek hom dan so 10mm terug en maak vas.
dra veiligheids brille. die saagsel spat woes terug. dit raak warm na die einde se kant toe en vat ook gereelde breuke want die exhaust fumes begin jou choke op n stadium. en moenie die probe kabel knak nie. as jy als in het en jy toets hom en die temp is negatied in plaas van positief, ruil net die drade om. sterkte.

hiers my prober slag met die madman.
http://www.patrol4x4.co.za/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=4898&hilit=EGT&start=10
by JoshJ
17 Sep 2015 18:54
 
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Re: DV9000 Come up winch with mounting plate complete

fANUS, DIS WAARMEE EK VIR GRAHAM UIT GEWINCH HET TOE HY OP SY PENS GELE HET OP DIE RIVER TRIP. EK DIT WAS STRAIGHT. NIE GE PULLY NIE. SO JA. MEER AS GENOEG. :thumbup:
by JoshJ
24 Sep 2015 10:14
 
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Re: Patrol 4.2 TD - mods for more power

Thanks for all the advice regarding the EGT probe position etc.
The guys at SAC fitted it pre turbo so it seems up to 650 degrees should be ok.

See pics of probe and placement of madman meter.
I think it looks almost stock and its in a spot that is easy to see.
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by djhep
28 Sep 2015 12:04
 
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Re: Submissions to Drive Out/WegRy

Fanus, ek sal kyk of ek dalk een vir jou het
by Michael
08 Oct 2015 05:20
 
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Re: 6mm Wheel Spacers

This is a difficult one to answer.....

The Nissan studs are a fine thread making them a little stronger than the studs, lets say on a Cruiser. By adding the 6mm spacer one is effectively reducing the amount of thread that is going to be in contact with the wheel nut. The studs are fairly long on the Patrol, and combined with the finer thread the 6mm that the spacers take up, there is still more than enough thread to hold the the wheel securely to the hub. The spacer also fits flush against the hub and the inside diameter of the spacer is sitting just where the radius on the hub ends.

If one fits this spacer to the 30mm spacer you already have on, my concerns are that there is no center spigot for the spacer to "center" itself on and that means all the wheels forces are on the studs. Those studs, I assume, have a normal thread and not as fine as the Nissan studs, creating a potential weak point ( in my opinion ). There is in effect a slip surface between the 30mm spacer and the 6mm spacer and again between the 6mm spacer and the wheel rim, not counting the surface between the hub and the spacer and assuming that the 30mm wheel spacer fits snugly around the radius on the hub and cannot move in any direction.

I don't think it would be a good idea in my opinion to do this for your application. It is a general rule that the studs now have to work even harder as soon as you put a spacer in.... the wider the spacer the more stress on the studs, as its now only going to be the studs holding the wheel center and tight against the hub. Maybe someone else can also comment on this.
by ricster
13 Oct 2015 10:36
 
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Re: Madman / Landy on line

Bel vir Motorcade. Hulle kan jou miskien help
by Stefan
19 Nov 2015 08:49
 
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Re: 4.2 Diesel GRX

Just as a reality check

I have seen many 4.5 GRXs of that age selling for between 80 and 100. But with the important difference of all of them being in good condition.

What is the difference here?

You've got engine replaced (alreayd some risks there), and not all the moving parts not working well anymore (speedo, odo etc).
If this was a TB45 with the same issues, the price would have been 60 max.
So just because it has a TD42 inside (and this being a replacement, rather than a native 4.2), it is worth 95?

Given the issues to be sorted, and the asking price of 95, I would not pay more than 80 max.
by Alex Roux
08 Dec 2015 10:33
 
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Re: Madman / Landy on line

Hier is hoe my setup lyk
by Michael
16 Jan 2016 07:15
 
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Re: Madman / Landy on line

Die sender was 'n 10bar sover ek kan onthou. Die pressure op die 2.7 was so tussen 3 en 4 as ek reg onthou. Maak net seker van die thread op jou blok en die thread van die sender. Op daai sender het ek daai adapter stukkie gekry om dit te maak pas. Die 2 punte op die sender was 'n 1 wat na die madman gaan en die ander een was vir die oorspronklike konneksie. Dus sal jou dash oliedruk liggie ook nog werk
by Pieter B
17 Jan 2016 19:30
 
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Re: Safe to drive with this..?

Fanus,
Ons het daardie selfde groen 4.5 wat jy in Sabie gesien het se koppelaar en vliegwiel vervang in Januarie.
Ek het die parte in voorraad gehad en Autobox in Koedoespoort Pretoria het vir ons die ratkas uitgehaal , parte vervang en weer terug inmekaar gesit.
Dit is dieselfde operasie wat jy nou gaan doen. Al verskil is dat die seel agter die vliegwiel vervang word. (Sal dalk goed wees om dieselfde tyd te kyk hoe die koppelaar lyk en te vervang.)

Ek is n gereelde klient by Autobox en hulle behandel my altyd goed. Die arbeid total was R2500. Dit is baie billik vir die hoeveelheid werk.

Dit behoort vir jou n idee te gee wat n markverwante arbeid behoort te wees.
by bogeyman
24 Jan 2016 11:07
 
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Re: MY BEST EMPLOYEE EVER!!!

Gesukkel om egt onder 650 te hou op die bulte. Hoogste was so 680.
Coolent hoogste was 112, maar was meestal onder 100.
Fanus, can you please measure your radiator for me when you have a chance?
I just want to know which radiator you have is your bakkie, I suspect you have the small one and you will benefit allot from the bigger one.

112 deg is going towards the hot side in my opinion. Highest I have ever got was 117 deg way back and that was when my thermostat housing was shot and I had a blocked radiator.

I think you must get an exhaust and get the EGT's/water temps under control before you do the suspension :mytwocents:

As jy wil kan ek jou boost/fuel en pomp timing vir jou doen na jy die exhaust gedoen het, hou dit maar in gedagte dan kom kuier jy vir my een saterdag
by Michael
08 Mar 2016 06:30
 
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