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Re: "And Jimmy was one of us..."

Dit is regtig mooi ,Mag jy alle geluk met hom kry :woo: :woo:
by andredurand
18 Feb 2015 20:35
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Re: Patrol Africa Forum Stickers

I can help problem :thumbup:
by Tinus lotz
03 Aug 2015 22:18
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Re: My guilty secret

Tinus helped me today, baie dankie mater.

This is what they looked like when taken out.


Preperation (this is something you won't see often):

I decided to use the opportunity to finally fit the X-link setup I have been planning for so long.





New yellow underpants:

And the (nearly) final product:

I have only taken a short drive, and it's like a different car. No more banginig and crashing, and it seems to be a whole lot more stable on the road.
Flex will still be limited by the shocks (which I have not replaced yet), but I climbed a 1m high wall with one front wheel without lifting any of the other wheels.

I still need to fit the lockout and it's cable mechanism, but that will happen soon.

Cedric, the caster correction is done by sorting the geometry of the x-link.
by Peter Connan
18 Oct 2015 17:52
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Re: Patrol Pick-Up Side Steps

Ek sal hulle vat. :thumbup:
by SJC
12 Feb 2016 20:19
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Tyre sizes: differences by brand/manufacturer.

I have noticed quite a difference in size between the Cooper ST Maxx's which is now on my 4.5 and the Dunlop MT2's (on the bakkie) both are 255/85r16.

Anyway, found this website( that lists the true sizes of the tyres, by manufacturer. (unfortunately not all our brands are listed here).

Very interesting how the sizes differs between different tyre manufacturers/brands:
(Might be handy info to keep in mind when shopping for tyres next time :thumbup: )

Listed as: 'Diameter in inches' x 'width in inches' (width in mm).

Maxxis Bighorn 31.9x11.6(295)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 31.8x10.8(274)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 31.8x11.4(290)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 31.57x11.7(297)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 31.5x11.4(290)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 31.5x11.4(290)

Firestone Destination M/T  32.5x12.5(318)
Maxxis Bighorn 32.9x12.7(323)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 32.8x12.2(310)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 32.3x12.5(318)
Yokohama Geolandar M/T 32.6x12.6(320)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 32.72x12.2(310)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 32.76x12.6(320)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 32.8x12.5(318)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 32.5x12.5(318)

Firestone Destination M/T  31.7x10.5(267)
Maxxis Bighorn 31.8x10.6(269)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 31.65x10.43(265)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 31.9x10.5(267)
Yokohama Geolandar M/T 31.9x10.6(269)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 31.89x10.7(272)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 32.01x10.5(267)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 31.9x10.5(267)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 31.6x10.5(267)

Firestone Destination M/T  33.1x11.3(287)
Maxxis Bighorn 33x11.6(295)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 32.83x11.22(285)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 32.8x11.3(287)
Yokohama Geolandar M/T 32.9x11.5(292)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 33x11.2(284)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 32.91x11.7(297)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 33.1x11.3(287)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 32.8x11.3(287)

Firestone Destination M/T  32.9x12.5(318)
Maxxis Bighorn 33x12.4(315)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 32.81x12.01(305)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 33.1x12.2(310)
Yokohama Geolandar M/T 33.2x12.5(318)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 32.99x12.3(312)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 33.07x12(305)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 33.1x12.2(310)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 32.8x12.2(310)

Firestone Destination M/T  31.7x10.7(272)
Maxxis Bighorn 31.8x10.8(274)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 31.61x10.43(265)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 31.9x10.7(272)
Yokohama Geolandar M/T 32x10.9(277)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 31.93x10.7(272)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 31.85x10.7(272)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 31.7x10.7(272)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 31.6x10.7(272)

Firestone Destination M/T  32.8x11.5(292)
Maxxis Bighorn 33x11.7(297)
Hankook Dynapro M/T 32.71x11.22(285)
Kumho Road Venture MT KL71 32.7x11.2(284)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 33.03x11.5(292)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 32.99x10.7(272)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 33x10.7(272)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 32.7x11.5(292)

Maxxis Bighorn 34.6x12.8(325)
Cooper Discoverer STT PRO 34.53x12.6(320)
Cooper Discoverer ST MAXX 34.6x12.4(315)
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM2 34.8x12.3(312)
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2 34.5x12.3(312)
by SJC
16 May 2016 16:49
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Re: Sleepwa Tent

Hi, ek sien op my e-pos dat 'n ou met 'n Patrol 'n goeie sleepwa tent het wat amper dieselfde is as die sleepwa wat ons het wat jy die boonste gedeelte van die sleepwa oop maak en dit in die tent gebruik as jou dubbel bed en jy kan is die sleepwa loop. :thumbup:

Ek hoop dat hy saam met ons hier is en meer fotos vir ons kan wys - ek sit ons sleepwa se foto ook by.

Hier is n stuk oor die Patrol as sleep voertuig, uit die selfde caravan artikel.


by JoshJ
24 May 2016 16:44
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Re: Anybody doing Baboons this year??

"Our group of 4×4 enthusiasts got together and discussed the possibility of doing the little known about thriller of a pass called ‘Letele pass’. So after many hours of planning, organizing and more importantly prepping our vehicles we decided to tackle the infamous Letele Pass in the Lesotho mountains.
The team comprised of the following adrenalin seeking people:
Simon & Cameron – Defender 110 TD5
Adriaan, Gerrit & Nino – Range Rover 3.9i
The Crawlz team 2 Nick & Frans – Jeep Wrangler 3.8i
Ben & Craig– Defender 110 Puma
Willem & Donovan – Defender 90 TD5
Goose & Riaan – Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi
Marius, Carel & Emile – Discovery 3 TDV6
The Crawlz team 1 Charl & Michael– Jeep Cherokee 4.0i

Not saying that the group dynamics were a problem but the Jeep drivers were prepared to tow a couple of Land Rovers up and down some serious terrain! Certainly the oil dripping drivers thought that the over modified Jeeps would not match their standard British build 4×4’s!

The group eagerly met up early on the Friday morning near Villiers just to find one passenger (a Hilux driver) a bit late and still in bed in Johannesburg. Then the Crawlz team surprised us with ‘little gifts’ for the cold weekend ahead, flasks filled with OBS. We took a slow but steady drive towards Clarens were the rest of the team members caught up with us and we had our last proper cooked meal for the next 4 days, from here onwards a slow and brand bashing drive to the start of Letele pass took the majority of the day.

Due to other confused local travellers stopping and asking what we are doing at this place?, they replied after our answers with, “The road she is not”, “You are crazy!” “How?” We arrived after dark at the base of Letele and we negotiated with the local shepherds for a camping spot. Our leader, Simon said we shall continue early the morning up and over this infamous Letele pass! So our first freezing night started in the middle of the Lesotho winter!

After waking to a number of grumpy old men in the freezing cold, it reached -7 degrees Celsius during the night (if only we knew what lay ahead for us), coffee and the normal breakfast was our saviour. Serious preparation started in order to tackle this mountain with all our guts! Some of the members were a bit laid back and some other was like little Jack Russells, ready to take on the unknown!

Simon did some research and the last group that has completed the trail did it in the year 2000 and they said it was plain hell! As it will be, our group decided that we know how to 4×4 and have successfully completed Baboons last year. Do not get me wrong the group is highly qualified 4×4 enthusiasts and our vehicles were all more than capable to conquer this beast.

So we started and soon it became apparent why the last group did not complete the pass. It was not all easy going we had to pack rocks and move boulders and pack rocks and move boulders….and some icy tricks were shown by the Letele Mountain spirits!

The first major obstacle that the group had to overcome was a side slope or a frozen river. Some members used the side slope and other though that the frozen river and rocks were the best option! It was just shown by the fact that each driver knew the strengths and weaknesses of themselves and the ability of their 4×4’s, shown by the option they took!

After spending some time on the above obstacle the group decided to push on! Some rocks, ice and other mountain spirit tricks were encounter but nothing that we did not expect. Eventually one Jeep was recovered! Some Oil leakers leaked more and we came to a section that scared even our young Kingsley (aka Ben).

The road turned into one large minefield of large boulders, impassable boulders! It looked as if something larger than life took away all the soil in the world and only left rocks! The group walked, strategized and planned but to no avail! The road had one huge gaping gap, dropping almost 2 meters straight down and almost 50 meters wide filled with boulders the size of average mom’s taxis! We were not prepared for actual road building especially with the limited time we had nor without serious damage to our beloved 4×4”s!

At this stage we had to accept defeat and made the choice that we will not be able to do this impossible ‘river crossing’ to finish the rest of the Letele pass which we still don’t know if its even passable or not! The Letele Spirits showed us that she had won! The group morale was down but then a glimmer of hope came and we decided to drive up from the other side to the exact point we had to turn around! Suddenly all the chirps and comments started and off we went to tackle it!

Our faithful Kingsley Jnr decided that as he is in Lesotho every second week, he’ll show us a nice camping spot where we can camp the night! Jnr forgot about one important fact! Winter in Lesotho is not warm and camping next to the intake of Katse dam is not the best decision! The promised ablutions etc. were not found, instead we froze! All our liquids beside the lovely OBS froze!!! It by itself is a miracle that we made it through the night! Most of the vehicles struggled to start that morning as it was -15 degrees Celsius! We packed our 4×4’s once again after defrosting ourselves and gear. Just after 10a.m the group embarked on its new quest to conquer letele pass from the other side! The other side had much more ice, rocks and water crossing! And once again we packed rocks and moved boulders and packed rocks and moved boulders…..The environment caused the team to do some bush welding on one of the Jeeps front axle and fixing some steering arms for the landy’s and doing some other repairs!

Unfortunately one of the Jeeps caught some of the Land Rover oil leaking illnesses after bumping the rear diff into a rock! And seeing that this was a new illness for a Jeep the driver and one compassionate Range Rover owner was unfortunately forced to turn around, decided to call victory to the mountain spirits!

It took us one full day to reach the base of letele pass from the other side of the mountain and forced us to set up camp next to the mountain stream right in a gorge where three kloofs met! That was our ‘windy’ night to say the least! It reached -14 degrees Celsius and taking the wind chill in consideration it easily reached -22 degrees Celsius that night!

The next morning after defrosting all our gear again the group decide that it’s a bad idea trying the pass from this side and changed our route again as we where camping at a crossroad. We decided to rather drive the kloof out using the Rampei pass since we were close to its base as well. We conquered yet another boulder bashing river crossing and continued to the point that going further would mean staying a week longer! Some serious side slopes and rock climbs had been victorious due to the group’s time constraint! And maybe if the modified Jeeps did do some more pulling on the Land Rover’s there might have been more time to finish the pass, the landys are most definitely more over landing vehicle than obstacle ruling rock climbing monsters. But with that said most of them were still stock standard, as for the Jeeps, they where heavy modified purpose built creations and where more than capable for the task. Stock standard Jeeps would most certainly have suffered even more.

In the end we had to turn around twice, not because the vehicles nor the drivers and navigators weren’t willing but the Mountain Spirits and time weren’t in our favour. We will be doing the same but just plan for enough time, bigger crowbars and generators to power electric blankets, and some more modifications to our 4×4’s!

A word of warning to all that would like to do this, Have enough time and be prepared! This is not Baboons pass and you and your team will be tested!

Written by the “Letele Crazy Group”"
by SJC
02 Oct 2016 08:52
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Re: Eliminating barn door squeaks..

Op die boonste hak in die middel teen nie dak is daar twee spacer plaatjies. Ek het myne uitgehaal. Die deur maak baie stuiwer toe en trêk homself bietjie op. Ek het nogi weer getoets nie maar wonder net of een van julle dit al gedoen het en werk dit.
by TijmenvdS
03 Dec 2016 20:06
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Barn Door Repair

When I bought my Patrol, it had a significant crack on the outer skin of the right barn-door side,
more or less in line with the bottom of the window.
During my initial hunt for a Patrol I noticed cracks on several of the vehicles which I looked at.
The crack on the specific vehicle I bought was one of the worst.
I read up on this forum as well as on the Australian Patrol forum about this problem.
A popular culprit “has been identified” as bigger / heavier spare wheels as well as slamming of the door.

My vehicle has a standard size spare wheel…. This argument is not valid in my case.
However, it had a sagging / misaligned RH barn door.

Below I will describe the method of repair which I applied to repair the cracked barn door.

In my opinion the root cause of the barndoor cracking is the design of the door itself.

The crack on all the Patrols with this problem appears to be always exactly in the same position.
The doorframe has been reinforced with an additional panel on the inside.
The crack runs within 1mm above this reinforcement plate.

(See Image 1)

When closing the door one needs to apply a certain force in order to ensure that all 2 door locks (bottom and top) engage properly, otherwise the “door open” signal on the dashboard stays lighted. However, forcefully closing the door puts a bending stress on it. The stress is highest in the middle of the door - at the bottom of the window. It has the same effect as bending a thin piece of metal up and down over a table edge until it breaks off.
In this case, it is the reinforcement inside the doorframe representing the tables edge.
I am quite certain that this problem would not occur If this reinforcement piece were to be significantly longer at the top. The forces created when closing the barndoor will obviously be even higher when the hinges are worn causing, a sagging of the barndoor.

The Fix:

In the Ausi Patrol Forum someone posted a DIY method of fixing the problem.
He inserted a 40-cm steel reinforcement bar which he MIG-welded onto the inside of the doorframe by means of holes which he drilled beforehand into the actual skin of the barndoor.

I visited various panel beaters to request a quote on the repair.
Some were not prepared to do this kind of repair, others quoted between 5 and 6 K.
My concern was that one does not really know how well such a repair would be done by a panel beater… and will it last ?
On the other hand, I was not at all convinced that I could do a DIY job using the before mentioned MIG welding method.

I eventually decided to do the repair myself by using a different approach:

1) I stripped inside door panel, wiper blade motor assembly, door lock top, connecting rods + cables.

2) I cut a strip ~ 150 x 20 mm on the inside of the doorframe as access-hole with a Dremel tool at the height of the cracked outer skin.

(See Image 2)

(See image 3).

This picture was taken through the access-hole and shows the crack of the outer skin from inside the doorframe, exactly were the reinforcement piece ends.

3) I decided to do a sandwich reinforcement which wedges the cracked panel between two outer metal strips and two inner strips.
The outer strips are ~ 6 x 400 mm for the bigger one and about 3 x 200 mm for the smaller one. Holes for bolting were pre-drilled, and the holes in the inner strips threaded.
Outer and inner strips were coated with a layer of metal epoxy, then screwed together with bolts.
Nuts can’t be used with the bolts since it is too difficult to attach them in the time available (speed was needed due setting time of the epoxy). The use of nuts would also limit the space inside the doorframe to the extent that movement of the connecting rod (door locks) could be impaired.
The epoxy layer between the reinforcement strips and the body skin fulfills two functions:

a) It ensures that the reinforcement metal strip bonds 100% with the vehicle skin and not just at certain points as with a screw connection or welding points.
b) It gives additional strength.

(See Image 4)

After the reinforcement process as described above was complete, the remaining task was to smooth out the reinforced area, then apply primer and paint.

(See Image 5,6 and 7)



4) Thereafter came the reassembly of the components removed earlier.

5) Another important task was to readjust the door so that it is perfectly aligned with the horizontal guide / striker at the bottom.
What I did was to support the weight of the door with a trolley jack (raised on pallets). I first tried to loosen the screws (3 per hinge) on the c-pillar and then tried to lift the door with the trolley jack.
The part of the hinge fitted to the c-pillar allows only very limited adjustment.
Thereafter I repeated this process, but on the other side of the door hinge which is attached to the barndoor. The two screws per hinge on the barndoor side can be accessed by removing the door inner panel. This gave the desired adjustment level. The door is now adjusted properly and does not have to endure additional stress during the closing process.

So far so good, (after ~ 4 weeks & ~ 1000 km).

by Picasso
08 Jan 2017 21:20
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Re: Beginners Patrol

ricster wrote:That gas strut on the door.... where did you get the swivel bracket that fixes to the body? I have a weak gas strut lying in my garage with the swivel that can connect to the door, but not the other one.

I also bought it from canopy center in Silverton
by TijmenvdS
16 Jan 2017 13:12
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Re: Beginners Patrol

Tijmen, daai voorste bash plate is my maaksel. Dit is dan waarskynlik dat die agterste een ook is. Indiendit wel myne is, belowe ek dat dit nie nodig is om brackets te bou nie, hy sal pas.

Ek het PBE stelsel in my eie kar, nou al omtrent ses jaar, en nie 'n enkele klagte nie. Ek het ook nou HCdP se paneel-stelsel in my waentjie ingebou.

Wil jy dalk kom kyk, dan sit ek sommer gou jou skid-plate vir jou op?

Ek sal dit vreeslik geniet. Ek sal verkies as ek dit n saterdag trippie kan maak.

Ek het nou gaan meet by die solenoid en net tussen hom het ek al kla n voltage drop van 0.08-0.1v
Hy word ook vreeslik vinnig warm so ek kan my verbeel dat hy maklik n 1v drop kan gee.

Loving the rear barn door gas strut!

Any chance of a list of parts for the job & size/NM of the strut?

Maybe some measurements too please?


It is a 350mm strut 500Nm, I have to admit that it is a bit to heavy so I woud say you can about half that, when I get a chance I will have it deflated. This was the only one they had in stock, works great.
1/350mm strut
1/rear joint
1/front joint
2/straight ball joint
1/90 degree bend
2/M8 nuts
4/M8 washers
2/M8 spring washers or teflon nuts
2/M6 bolts ~20mm-30mm long
2/M6 nuts
4/M6 wahers
2/M6 spring washers or teflon nuts

13mm spanner and socket
10mm spanner and socket
6mm drill
8mm drill

Be careful unclipping the door interior pannel, the clips tend to break.
Loosen the door catch, pull the door open a bit more then mark the hole on the door bottom so when you retighten the catch the door will always be under tention without play.
Do not worry to much about the measurements I guessed it based on a picture of a 290mm strut. So the idea is quite flexible on available parts.
by TijmenvdS
03 Feb 2017 19:05
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Rapid inflation deflation system

Hi folks. Since i am lazy to deflate, i get stuck in the sand here. So been working on getting the process of deflation and then inflation easier and quicker.

1st step i hardwired my compressor. 2nd step copied a system from wildboar of usa called 2 way air.

Inflation from stopping the car to driving off is 10 minute
by vanhack
04 Feb 2017 19:30
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Re: Rapid inflation deflation system


I see you guys are talking about inflating and deflating tyres for different terrain types . On my Safari , I have a central tyre inflation system , where I can inflate or deflate the tyres while traveling . The system uses swivels on the hubs of each wheel , with each wheel having it's own gauge , inflation , and deflation valve in the cab . Each wheel can be inflated to its own individual pressure . With a puncture you can set the valve for that wheel to slowly inflate continiously to maintain the pressure . you can also instantly see if one wheel is not up to pressure . My system is manual at the moment . I am working on an idea to be able to have perhaps three seperate pressure settings for ; OFF ROAD ; ON ROAD ; and FULL LOAD (for pick-ups) . In my cab , I have five gauges (4 tyres and 1 air tank) with four inflate and four deflate valves on the dash . My system works wonders for me , as I do a lot of rough dirt road and tar in the same trips . After about ten years my swivels are shot , so I'm working on a new type of swivel which would be more bush and off road resistant . The down side is waiting for the rest of the convoy to inflate or deflate their tyres .
by Brett Bignoux
05 Feb 2017 19:19
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Re: Rapid inflation deflation system

Good day gents .

I will load some photos as soon as I have taken them in daylight .

Cheers for now .
by Brett Bignoux
07 Feb 2017 19:57
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TD42 front and rear brake disc sizes

I was looking at the Iron Maidens brake discs all round. There is a distinct lip on the two front brake discs and I am not sure if they have been skimmed previously. So lets rather bang in some new discs and pads. and I might as well do the rears too.

Now the question. What are the outer diameters of SPECIFICALLY the TD42 front and rear discs. From my research it seems that the front discs are 306mm in diameter for the TD42, but I cannot get any proper info on what the diameter is for the rear brake discs. Unfortunately I don't have a vernier to measure the OD accurately. I assume they are not the same in diameter as they have different brake pads.

I will get some part numbers and prices and place them here too.

Front Discs
ALFA - (part no) DR 6454 = R ??
FERODO (part no) DDF 1552 = R ??
POWERBRAKE ( part no ) ??? = R ??? ( Part no) DR6454 = R 2100 delivered ( for both front discs )

Rear Discs
ALFA - (part no) ????? = R ??
FERODO (part no) ????? = R ??
POWERBRAKE ( part no ) ??? = R ??? ( Part no) ????? = R ???

I will put up the front and rear brake pad part numbers for the TD42 Patrol too.

Front pads :-
FERODO - FDB 1577 - R ???
ATE - ??? - R ????
POWER BRAKE - ??? - R ???

We can always do a new thread for the TB 42,45,48 and ZD30 on a new post so if one does a search you will immediately get to the right info.
by ricster
28 Feb 2017 16:43
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Re: Patrol seat covers

Escape Gear

Escape Gear
Unit C9, Prime Park,
Mocke Road
Diep River
Cape Town, 7800
Phone: (021) 7060440
Fax: (021) 7060446
Vat no: 4170226965 Quotation Number: EG-1316
Date: 05 February 2017

Account Your Name Your contact number/s Your Email address Your VAT number (if applicable) Quotation Expiry date
EG-1316 Steven Robinson 0729975187 07 March 2017

Part Number Description Fabric Type/Colour Quantity Price Inc VAT
NPL2CC GR Nissan Patrol Seat Covers: Patrol GRX (11/2004 - present); 2 fronts with airbags, 50/50 rear bench with armrests.
Cotton Canvas colour grey 1 R5950
Important information you have agreed to:

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☑ I understand that if my order is not in stock, it will be subject to an 8 to 10 working day manufacturing lead time, from date of payment, plus 2 to 3 working days for door-to-door economy courier service.
☑ I confirm that courier service is unable to deliver to a physical address at an embassy, farm, plot, small holding, harbour, airport, or on weekends/public holidays.
☑ I understand my seat cover warranty is null and void if I fail to follow the washing instructions, and/or incorrectly install driver side SRS airbag seat cover on the passenger seat, or visa versa.
Proof of payment
Please quote quotation invoice number when making payment.
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Thank you for your business. Banking Details
Account name: Cloudlight CC t/a Escape Gear
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Branch Code: 025-309
Account number: 0717 54 857 Total Excl. VAT R 5219.30
VAT R 730.70
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by biggles
12 Mar 2017 09:00
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Canvas Tents

Hey guys,

Ordered these tents on bidorbuy and thought I'd share.

These are NOT Tentco or any other quality product, but it's cheap and nasty. Paid R1100 for it and for that kind of money you can't expect too much even when it says "canvas".

OK so the outside material is thin canvas with plastic sheet as an inner. Ground sheet is a bit thin to my liking and it might rain in at the side windows.

Other than that, I'm very happy about it with a price tag like that. It's a very good replacement if your in the market for a normal plastic tent (don't know what you call the material) but want something more rugged.
by Zakhil
03 Feb 2017 08:23
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Re: General Grabber M/T

Ok so it has now been around 7,500km since I fitted the General Grabber 33x12.5x15 Muds on my Patrol and here is how I feel so far

Road Noise: 3/5
Road noise is very acceptable and is noticeably quieter than the BF KO2's I had on. It is a MT tyre so I guess it will never be as quiet as an AT, but it is really not loud and people don't turn around to see what is coming up the street I think it's above average in the class.

Ride Comfort: 4/5
The ride is softer than before and even with the beefy tyres I dont seem to have problems with steering wheel shakes or death wobbles. They do seem to add quite a bit of wheel weights when balancing, but it really feels good on the road. I was expecting a bit more tyre roll than what I had with the 305/70/16 tyres, but I cannot feel any difference. I run them on 2.2 bar unloaded and think that's the ideal pressure as my daily drive.

Tyre wear: ?/5
Over the 7,500km I have covered so far you cannot see any tyre wear so I think it might be a bit premature to really say. It did show a bit of heal/toe wear on the rear tyres which is normal for MT tyres, but it was so little that you could only pick it up with chalk while it rotates on the wheel alignment machine

Rocky terrain performance: 5/5
I was very impressed with the performance the tyres gave on an outing we did at Hennops 4x4 trail. With the KO2's I had on I had to engage diff lock on the rocky climb section as well as the very steep long hill obsticle. This time round I did the whole trail without diff lock as the Grabbers really have impressive grip. I think the biggest factor is the wider tyre (about 25mm) as well as the lower pressure I can run them at which creates an enormous footprint. I was very impressed to say the least, and could not find any fault.
Even when looking at the damage the rock does to the tyre, its minimal and very acceptable to me.

Sand performance: 5/5
Well here is where there are allot of opinions on MT vs AT and 3 ply sidewalls vs 2 ply, but again I was impressed. I somehow knew that they were going to be good in the sand, but they did better than what I expected. I could run the tyre pressure as low as 0.4 bar without de-beading them.
There was one dune which I could drive out where not one 4.8 could, and I think the tyres played the biggest role here. Dropping the preassure from 0.6 to 0.4 made all the difference.

Here is a video of attempt 1 starting in 3L and downshifting to 2L just before you reach the top.

Here is the 4th attempt doing exactly what I did in the first video but now running 0.4 bar on the tyres.

Overall I am really glad I bought these tyres. I think they are worth more than what I paid for them and you really get great tyres for the price.
Hopefully they will continue to impress me, but it is still early stages so lets see.

I will post my findings when they have done about 15,000km to 20,000km to get a better idea of how it wears.
by Michael
03 Apr 2017 08:28
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